All Blacks v Tonga
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@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Surely that will be enough evidence for NZR to extend Foster for another 6 years.
No doubt it will also be enough for Foster to keep picking Bridge in the starting side.I still think RIoane is wasted at 13. Him at 11 with Jordan at 14 would give us serious gas.
Liked what i saw from the loose forwards. So much depth there.
If RIoane is proactive and goes looking for work at 11 I'd agree. Thought he played ok in the midfield today but I guess not many questions were asked of him.
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Reading through the match thread now I knew Bridge was going to get plenty of criticism. The Fern never disappoints.
I am sure 36 yr old Kahui would have beaten at least one defender tonight.
Regarding Jordan, I have been told by someone close to the Crusaders that he has a reputation of being a poor passer. One of the reasons you will never see him at 1st 5. Right wing is his position for the ABs.
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@bovidae yeah wasn't flash with anything other than tucking and running, apart from that one kick chase. Good distance on his kicks, but not a lot of thought put into them it appeared. And as for linking with other players when he made a break...
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@stag said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Okay, so to all the tossers, exactly what is poor about Bridges game stats???
I was actually thinking this during the game - the stats for him were going to look good. Lots of runs, and metres run, in particular. The thing the stats don't show is what he did at the end of each of those runs, which was... flop down like a fish and hope the big nasty Tongans didn't tackle him.
Maybe he'd been told to do that by the coaches to avoid injury, assuming the big nasty Tongans were going to provide stereotypical big nasty physical tackles?
Just being an optimist here. -
When I saw Tupaea hitting the ball up, I thought I was watching Liam Messam. Liked his activity even if he looked a little upright and league-ish at times.
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The massive takeaway from this game is that we all now know that Ken Laban is from Wainuiomata
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I have just woken in a cold sweat as I have seen the reality of Foster’s bold new strategy for the ABs.
Not only do we play two playmakers but three midfielders!
Nothing else can plain the amazing linking abilities of our left wing and the lack of desire for him to beat a man.
The plan still needs work as shown in the last minute when he unexpectedly found himself on the end of the chain with no one in front of him and wasn’t able to recycle to a loose forward.
No wonder the right wing scored all the tries. He’s the only real outside back. -
@stag said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Okay, so to all the tossers, exactly what is poor about Bridges game stats???
You need to quit the teenage name calling. It doesn’t matter that you disagree, you can still put your thoughts forward without infantile remarks on adult board
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@hooroo said in All Blacks v Tonga:
You need to quit the teenage name calling. It doesn’t matter that you disagree, you can still put your thoughts forward without infantile remarks on adult board
Perfect
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Seen as this was actually a hard game to rate players on what they did well given Tonga included club players etc maybe look at the needles penalty's given as some were quite concerning and there was also a few times the AB's were offside.
I mean when the game is so easily won try to get something more out of it - does anyone have a list of all the penalty's?
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@blackeyeagain I was surprised the count was so high as it didn't seem to feel like so many penalties, I get the feeling a few may have been at the breakdown when in possession.
I do remember the Whitelock double up at the end though, both completely unnecessary - but then maybe being so comfortably ahead changes the mindset and you know you can get away with ill discipline.
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@machpants said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mackerzzzz how many of them are amateur players?
Yeah like the ABs 11, how did he not score?
Reading back over the thread. Seems you started it
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Christ I actually feel bad
Yeah, am glad they managed to claw it back a bit.
It was tracking at 2 points a minute (160-nil) after 20 mins.
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@nepia said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Our 12 isn't perfect. DMac and Richie look so slick and fast against these club players but George "Did you drop a hankerchief? I'll pick it up for you and fall over" Bridge is trying to keep it close.
Actually, is Bridge still injured? He doesn't look to be running at 100%.
This. Certainly lacking zip. Am sure he can be better.
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@his-bobness said in All Blacks v Tonga:
George Bridge once seemed so promising. What happened?
Bobness. The ABs bring out OG. Next I expect Fullermorg, Irish Richard or Jury.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Tonga:
It's been obvious all season that Bridge is in terrible form. It's been obvious for a long while he is a very limited option. And yet Foster and Co. selected him on the Left Wing for the ABs. 🤬
If I had to choose between him and Jordie..
Just to be clear my preference is neither, but you'd pick Jordie. At least he has size and a decent boot.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@his-bobness said in All Blacks v Tonga:
George Bridge once seemed so promising. What happened?
Bobness. The ABs bring out OG. Next I expect Fullermorg, Irish Richard or Jury.
Phooey even!
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I have just woken in a cold sweat as I have seen the reality of Foster’s bold new strategy for the ABs.
Not only do we play two playmakers but three midfielders!
Nothing else can plain the amazing linking abilities of our left wing and the lack of desire for him to beat a man.
The plan still needs work as shown in the last minute when he unexpectedly found himself on the end of the chain with no one in front of him and wasn’t able to recycle to a loose forward.
No wonder the right wing scored all the tries. He’s the only real outside back.I actually had a similar thought during the game. That maybe Bridge would make a better midfielder than wing. Similar style to Crotty. Not particularly fast or dynamic but just dare i say it…..safe.
Whatever position he is he shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs.The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I have just woken in a cold sweat as I have seen the reality of Foster’s bold new strategy for the ABs.
Not only do we play two playmakers but three midfielders!
Nothing else can plain the amazing linking abilities of our left wing and the lack of desire for him to beat a man.
The plan still needs work as shown in the last minute when he unexpectedly found himself on the end of the chain with no one in front of him and wasn’t able to recycle to a loose forward.
No wonder the right wing scored all the tries. He’s the only real outside back.I actually had a similar thought during the game. That maybe Bridge would make a better midfielder than wing. Similar style to Crotty. Not particularly fast or dynamic but just dare i say it…..safe.
Whatever position he is he shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs.The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
…..and despite all @Bones criticism Jordan got a 10 !
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@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 Im ok with 5 tries being an automatic 10 rating.
I’m not sure that 5 tries in a drubbing against a barely NPC level opponent deserves a “yeah boi!” though
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@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
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@crucial said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@mn5 Im ok with 5 tries being an automatic 10 rating.
I’m not sure that 5 tries in a drubbing against a barely NPC level opponent deserves a “yeah boi!” though
True. Yeah boi’s should be reserved for bigger occasions.
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Yeah maybe, but a group of unpaid, old/youth adjacent blokes posing as experts on an internet forum should be given a bit more slack than someone claiming to be a sports journalist.
A 5 or 6 is probably fair when compared to what others got.
So the score of 9 was 3-4 too high.
Tsf probably 3-4 too low if the comments reflect a score of 1 or 2. -
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Match threads used to be worth a read, now it's like I am reading Planet Rugby. What happened to the learned posts we used to occasionally get?
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Match threads used to be worth a read, now it's like I am reading Planet Rugby. What happened to the learned posts we used to occasionally get?
Bridge has got a whole heap of white knighters at PR so the thread went the other way, he got praise for each metre he ran.
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@nepia I don't expect any better on PR, but the Fern was always better than some of the dross we get every match thread now.
I know I am becoming a bit if a broken record on this, but I like this place and it is bugging me match threads have gone this way.
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@crazy-horse I'd forgotten all about Planet Rugby. I don't think I've looked at that place for about 15 years.
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
Though to be frank, it's more accurate than the collective pile-in that went on on here. Reading this thread you would have thought you were watching a meltdown of Colin Farrell proportions.
Match threads used to be worth a read, now it's like I am reading Planet Rugby. What happened to the learned posts we used to occasionally get?
I can only type so fast.
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@pukunui said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I actually had a similar thought during the game. That maybe Bridge would make a better midfielder than wing. Similar style to Crotty. Not particularly fast or dynamic but just dare i say it…..safe.
Whatever position he is he shouldn’t be anywhere near the ABs.The fact he was given a rating of 9 in that player rating article just demonstrates the poor quality of journalism in NZ.
I’ve been saying he should be a fullback for the last couple of years.
The issue is his lack of foot work. An AB winger should be have top quality foot work that puts off defenders. Bridge doesn’t have it but every successful AB winger has had it. Even our wingers that were famous for running over people had great feet.
At fullback he could still do his tidy work at the end of the chain. Picking and choosing when to join the line would make space for others. He seems tidy under the high ball, not sure how good his kicking game is though
The problem he has is he needs to it at SR level. He seems unlikely to get game time there at the Crusaders. Maybe If Jordan is considered a winger now that will change (and Havili a 12)
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
I know I am becoming a bit if a broken record on this
Yes. Post something constructive yourself
Whinging about whinging is tedious and lowers the tone further
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@crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Tonga:
@nepia I don't expect any better on PR, but the Fern was always better than some of the dross we get every match thread now.
I know I am becoming a bit if a broken record on this, but I like this place and it is bugging me match threads have gone this way.
I can't say I personally have really noticed a bunch of math threads have "gone this way" recently as I feel they've always been like this.
Bridge was copping it in that first half (I think deservedly, a few others not so much, but as I said in the thread I don't think he's 100% full fitness) which spilt into the second half probably more due to TJ hyping him up than anything else.
The same happens with other poor performing players. Blues halfbacks cop it regularly, Blackwell cops it in Canes matches, everyones favourite bros have copped it lots.
I think a pure match thread, which is good for following the game, would lose some of the humour and energy that makes them worthwhile. I've spent some Sunday mornings reading back through a match thread just cracking up. But part of that is it's posters just expressing their feelings in the heat of the moment.
But, I can understand if it's not for you anymore, I blocked the Politics section of this place for that reason.
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Talk about the match
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@duluth said in All Blacks v Tonga:
Too many other options.. maybe he should move?
Are any of the other franchises searching for a fullback? The Chiefs could be if the DMac Japan deal is official.
Be interesting to see what Warren does with the Chiefs if DMac isn't around as this year most of the game was designed around him on multiple phases.
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