Highlanders 2022
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@kiwiwomble I don't think it's got anything to do with Dunedin & Highlanders environment. It's a mental health thing as he's made very clear himself. Just doing it really tough the last 2-3 years.
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@stargazer i know its a mental health thing, i was saying that Dunedin and the Highlander might not be helping with his metal health issues, seeing he managed to play for southland in the NPC, you cant help but think he was making progress then and there and not as well now
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@kiwiwomble NPC, less pressure than SR?
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@stargazer quite possibly, and thats all i was meaning, if super rugby (and the highlanders/dunedin as his employer) isn't doing him any favours then for his own good you cant help but wondering if he should step away properly and really look after himself
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@fakatavafuture said in Highlanders 2022:
what's the consensus on cam millar?obviously a reliable goal kicker, trains regularly with the senior team so could he debut soon or would that be throwing him in the deep end?
We’ve also got that young guy down from Auckland they’ve earmarked as a long term option
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@stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
If McClutchie can continue to improve his kicking, a Fakatava-McC combo reunited at the Highlanders sounds pretty good for next year, even without my black&white eye patch on.
I have no idea why he isn’t there this year. Some one at the Landers needs firing, because if they are trying to focus on ‘local’ talent, its a recipe for being the 5th best franchise in NZ.
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@bones said in Highlanders 2022:
@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
if they are trying to focus on ‘local’ talent
Not sure if serious....
I'm not, but I can't fathom why didn't bring another 10 into the squad.
I can understand re-signing Banks, but as the 3rd 10, not the 2nd 10 and only other option to Hunt.
I know they have the young kid, but he's at least a year away, maybe two, from Super rugby.
Clearly, they don't trust Koroi, so simply put, I don't get it.
Right now they could be bringing McClutchie and Fakatava off the bench and developing them both.
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@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
@bones said in Highlanders 2022:
@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
if they are trying to focus on ‘local’ talent
Not sure if serious....
I'm not, but I have can't fathom why didn't bring another 10 into the squad.
I can understand re-signing Banks, but as the 3rd 10, not the 10 and only other option to Banks.
I know they have the young kid, but he's at least a year away, maybe two, from Super rugby.
Clearly, they don't trust Koroi, so simply put, I don't get it.
Right now they could be bringing McClutchie and Fakatava off the bench and developing them both.
Yep agree. I didn’t see the value in Banks instead of a McClutchie type player.
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@stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@chris McClutchie, not a "McClutchie type player". The advantage of having McC there would exactly be that combo with Fakatava (and Mikaele-Tu'u at 8 ) that already exists at NPC level.
Well if they didn’t rate McClutchie which they cleary did not as they didn’t select him.
Any investment in a young player would have been better than Banks.
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@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
@bones said in Highlanders 2022:
@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
if they are trying to focus on ‘local’ talent
Not sure if serious....
I'm not, but I have can't fathom why didn't bring another 10 into the squad.
I can understand re-signing Banks, but as the 3rd 10, not the 10 and only other option to Banks.
I know they have the young kid, but he's at least a year away, maybe two, from Super rugby.
Clearly, they don't trust Koroi, so simply put, I don't get it.
Right now they could be bringing McClutchie and Fakatava off the bench and developing them both.
Pretty sure 10/12/13 is cursed at the landers or something as no coach seems to want to put any decent thought into the area....which is surprising considering the ones we've had!
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@chris said in Highlanders 2022:
@stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@chris McClutchie, not a "McClutchie type player". The advantage of having McC there would exactly be that combo with Fakatava (and Mikaele-Tu'u at 8 ) that already exists at NPC level.
Well if they didn’t rate McClutchie which they cleary did not as they didn’t select him.
Well, maybe that was exactly where they got it wrong.
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@stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@chris said in Highlanders 2022:
@stargazer said in Highlanders 2022:
@chris McClutchie, not a "McClutchie type player". The advantage of having McC there would exactly be that combo with Fakatava (and Mikaele-Tu'u at 8 ) that already exists at NPC level.
Well if they didn’t rate McClutchie which they cleary did not as they didn’t select him.
Well, maybe that was exactly where they got it wrong.
No doubt about that.
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@tim in terms of attracting talent i remember a specific scenario where Tony brown informed journo Paul of the stuff site that he was very keen on Kini Naholo as the ideal replacement for Nareki and the next thing you know he's snapped up by the crusaders💀
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@fakatavafuture said in Highlanders 2022:
@tim in terms of attracting talent i remember a specific scenario where Tony brown informed journo Paul of the stuff site that he was very keen on Kini Naholo as the ideal replacement for Nareki and the next thing you know he's snapped up by the crusaders💀
Where he gets approximately fuck-all game time.
I know he’s young, but he’s miles away from the bench and would probably be starting at the landers. Surprising choice to me, unless the landers didn’t really try.
This is beyond Kini, who is miles and miles away from the ABs, but I really hope that the AB coaches ignore players who can’t demand a start at their franchise.
Want to get an AB cap? Be the best at your franchise or move.
If they did that, so think we’d not see young players lining up to be behind established All Blacks.
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@gt12 said in Highlanders 2022:
This is beyond Kini, who is miles and miles away from the ABs, but I really hope that the AB coaches ignore players who can’t demand a start at their franchise.
Want to get an AB cap? Be the best at your franchise or move.
If they did that, so think we’d not see young players lining up to be behind established All Blacks.
Sorry, but that's a ridiculous suggestion. Competition is healthy and if players have to push each other for a starting spot, that is only good for them. And for upcoming talent it can only be good to be able to learn from those established ABs.
Also, some players, who do not always start at their franchise, are still better players than players in the same position at another franchise. It would be really poor ABs selection policy if they selected a player from another franchise instead of a better player who is not a regular starter. Example: they could only select Asafo Aumua OR Dane Coles, but not both. They would have to select Liam Coltman or Kurt Eklund instead. In the very near future, they could not select Fakatava until they drop Aaron Smith or Fakatava leaves the Highlanders.
Players will eventually leave on their own accord if they don't get enough game time or starts (case in point: several ex-Crusaders at the Highlanders, or many ex-Canes spread around the franchises). It doesn't always serve them well (case in point: several ex-Crusaders at the Highlanders); sometimes it does (e.g., several players who have left the Canes).
