SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues
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@act-crusader said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@chris-b said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@snowy said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Seeing as some are doing conspiracy theories about milking a card - I wonder if the Dr is a Crusaders fan?
Not our fault if the Blues assume that @Canerbry wearing a white coat is a doctor.
Blues, poaching our coaches and now our doctors
I'm probably misunderstanding - but, has Canerbry gone to Auckland?
Surely not!
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@snowy I think there was a fair bit of fault with the blues player, you're opening up a can of worms if you want to go by the letter of the law there, we'll have penalties every phase with the amount of attacking players in front of the ball running into defenders these days.
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@snowy said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@stargazer said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@crazy-horse That's a bit far-fetched. The player who was incorrectly taken off the field for a head injury by the match doctor was a back and a reserve back came on (Otere Black). They didn't lose a forward sub as a result of the mistake of the match doctor.
They subbed Gibson for Akira in the 46th minute, so reasonably early in the 2nd half. Does someone know exactly when in the game Papali'i injured his knee, because he played on for quite a while, I think.
Anyway, when Papali'i left the field (71st minute) and they had to play on with 14 players, the Blues were already trailing 6 - 22, so the game was already lost anyway.
You seem to be missing the point. The relevance to that particular game is immaterial.
The laws are relevant, and having a player removed from the match due to foul play and not being able to replace them - even with a player that has been on the field should be allowed.
You shouldn't be down to 14 at the end of a match because you had a game plan, used subs, and previously the opposition did something illegal to injure one of your players.
That would seem a fair change to the laws.
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@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@cantab79 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Does any NZ player divide opinions as much as Akira Ioane? There is something about Akira Ioane, people either love him or hate him. People can watch the same game and see completely different performances. Fwiw I thought he was excellent with ball in hand.
The trouble with Akira is he is usually excellent with ball in hand, but too often not without the ball, when he not on he will make a tackle coming straight at him usually, but as soon as the attack goes 5 meters wide of him he switches off and goes into jog mode. I get impression he was a very good college player who ran over top of people frequently, and was no doubt a star of his team, and maybe got into bad habits with rest of his game. I have seen him play what I consider probly 4 real good games in all the times I have watched him.
It's hard to take you seriously with comments like that.
Ok enlighten me what are all the real good games he has played. He started last year not even getting on bench for Blues ** (remember the fat f* sitting in the stand eating a pie?)**, he had a few good games, one good test, and really hasn't even held his starting spot in Blues this year. Maybe I was being harsh, but you can't say he has in any year played consistently good rugby, why I get so pissed with him, because of his undoubted potential.
You appear to just be doubling down now. He didn't get selected for the ABs on the back of no form last year. As @Kirwan has mentioned multiple times he was being deliberately held back at the start of last season due to the mental health issues (and quite frankly the overworked he'd been in the previous Blues campaigns). Even this year he hasn't been as bad as you're making out. He was topping the Fern MOTM poll for a few weeks there, and there's no higher authority than that.
But, since you appear to want an extra long run then dust off your videotapes from 2018, he was superb all of that season and Evans (who I'm a big fan of as a Magpies boy) made the ABs instead of him despite not playing as well.
But I guess the tone of the bolded bit means that no matter what he does you'll never give him credit.
Ok so we disagree, I thought in 2018 he was very ordinary, because of his workrate. And as you said Evan made ABs ahead of him, because maybe ABs wanted players that would work all around field. We will never agree, you want someone who will stand around and do a caryy every now and then, I want a player who is involved all the time. Apparently so do Blues coaches as he doesn't seem to be first choice there this year ,again!
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@nostrildamus said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@cantab79 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Does any NZ player divide opinions as much as Akira Ioane? There is something about Akira Ioane, people either love him or hate him. People can watch the same game and see completely different performances. Fwiw I thought he was excellent with ball in hand.
The trouble with Akira is he is usually excellent with ball in hand, but too often not without the ball, when he not on he will make a tackle coming straight at him usually, but as soon as the attack goes 5 meters wide of him he switches off and goes into jog mode. I get impression he was a very good college player who ran over top of people frequently, and was no doubt a star of his team, and maybe got into bad habits with rest of his game. I have seen him play what I consider probly 4 real good games in all the times I have watched him.
It's hard to take you seriously with comments like that.
Ok enlighten me what are all the real good games he has played. He started last year not even getting on bench for Blues (remember the fat f*** sitting in the stand eating a pie?), he had a few good games, one good test, and really hasn't even held his starting spot in Blues this year. Maybe I was being harsh, but you can't say he has in any year played consistently good rugby, why I get so pissed with him, because of his undoubted potential.
I thought he had great impact for the ABs.
"remember the fat f***"
Doesn't sound like you are very impartial.
We have plenty of good 6s available for the ABs, not so many at 8 (come to think of it, is Savea really the best 8 in the country?)
I like the impact Akira has, but perhaps he isn't an 80 minutes player at int. level. In this era, that might not be a showstopper.Yep he did have great impact for ABs, and if you followed mt posts you would of seen how happy I was. But unfortunately one good test doesn't make a career. Or are you saying the Blues coaches have it in for him to, as they haven't been starting him either. I repeat I would love him to prove me wrong, but I get so pissed with a player with so much potentiel who seems to not want it enough to do work!
And tell me the times you have seen him go sprinting back when the defence has been breeched outside or inside him. Give me examples, I would love to be wrong. So probably would his own coaches. -
@dan54 I'll keep an eye out for that. But nb, I thought it was 2 good tests?
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I wouldn't go making the argument about player selection as if that's a negative slight on an ignored player. Look at the donkeys we've given All Black jerseys to over the last four years.
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@antipodean said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
I wouldn't go making the argument about player selection as if that's a negative slight on an ignored player. Look at the donkeys we've given All Black jerseys to over the last four years.
@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Apparently so do Blues coaches as he doesn't seem to be first choice there this year ,again!
I wouldn't advise using the Blues 2021 selections to support your position......
He's fucked then innhe!
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@kiwimurph said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Apparently so do Blues coaches as he doesn't seem to be first choice there this year ,again!
I wouldn't advise using the Blues 2021 selections to support your position......
Fair enough but who would you listen too, poaters on a forum, who if they watched rugby this year would of seen Akira play maybe one half of good rugby, or the coaches who actually watch what he does at games, and as importantly at training. Even his supporters in media ( Buck Shelford etc)all seemed to think the one thing he needed to do was up his workrate.
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@nostrildamus said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 I'll keep an eye out for that. But nb, I thought it was 2 good tests?
Was there, I only remember 1 good test.
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@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@dan54 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@cantab79 said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Does any NZ player divide opinions as much as Akira Ioane? There is something about Akira Ioane, people either love him or hate him. People can watch the same game and see completely different performances. Fwiw I thought he was excellent with ball in hand.
The trouble with Akira is he is usually excellent with ball in hand, but too often not without the ball, when he not on he will make a tackle coming straight at him usually, but as soon as the attack goes 5 meters wide of him he switches off and goes into jog mode. I get impression he was a very good college player who ran over top of people frequently, and was no doubt a star of his team, and maybe got into bad habits with rest of his game. I have seen him play what I consider probly 4 real good games in all the times I have watched him.
It's hard to take you seriously with comments like that.
Ok enlighten me what are all the real good games he has played. He started last year not even getting on bench for Blues ** (remember the fat f* sitting in the stand eating a pie?)**, he had a few good games, one good test, and really hasn't even held his starting spot in Blues this year. Maybe I was being harsh, but you can't say he has in any year played consistently good rugby, why I get so pissed with him, because of his undoubted potential.
You appear to just be doubling down now. He didn't get selected for the ABs on the back of no form last year. As @Kirwan has mentioned multiple times he was being deliberately held back at the start of last season due to the mental health issues (and quite frankly the overworked he'd been in the previous Blues campaigns). Even this year he hasn't been as bad as you're making out. He was topping the Fern MOTM poll for a few weeks there, and there's no higher authority than that.
But, since you appear to want an extra long run then dust off your videotapes from 2018, he was superb all of that season and Evans (who I'm a big fan of as a Magpies boy) made the ABs instead of him despite not playing as well.
But I guess the tone of the bolded bit means that no matter what he does you'll never give him credit.
Ok so we disagree, I thought in 2018 he was very ordinary, because of his workrate. And as you said Evan made ABs ahead of him, because maybe ABs wanted players that would work all around field. We will never agree, you want someone who will stand around and do a caryy every now and then, I want a player who is involved all the time. Apparently so do Blues coaches as he doesn't seem to be first choice there this year ,again!
Seriously mate, you're completely taking the piss or you've completely forgotten the 2018 season.
At the time when the usual suspects were whining about him and pushing amongst others Taufua's credentials, I reviewed all the contenders stats and Ioane was top or near the top on all attack and defence stats, with the exception of the mythical lean on rucks stats that weren't recorded. When you pointed out to his detractors that he was actually going well in all these stats, then ruck leaning was brought up, then niggle, then the length of his beard etc etc.
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Imagine if TSF was a thing when Mark Carter played 🤣
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@taniwharugby said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Imagine if TSF was a thing when Mark Carter played 🤣
Ohh Geez The Place would overload and shut down.
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@chris said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Imagine if TSF was a thing when Mark Carter played 🤣
Ohh Geez The Place would overload and shut down.
Here’s an interesting debate - who’s the more worthy AB out of Carter and Broomhall?
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@nepia said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@chris said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
@taniwharugby said in SRA Round 9: Crusaders v Blues:
Imagine if TSF was a thing when Mark Carter played 🤣
Ohh Geez The Place would overload and shut down.
Here’s an interesting debate - who’s the more worthy AB out of Carter and Broomhall?
I can’t defend either of them,I have no ammo for that debate.
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