Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
You should see some of the sanctimonnious bollocks that has been spouted by people such as Michael Vaughan, Aggers and Mark Ramprakash with Vaughan suggesting that Robinson needs to be re-educated. What a good idea, perhaps we could have some camps built specially for this purpose.
Where was this? Listening to TMS Vaughn's position seemed to be that in the current climate some penance has to be paid publicly just to end the issue - but he didn't think a suspension for something a decade ago was warranted. His main criticism was of the England media management who he believes should have vetted his social media when he was selected. Maybe he changed his views.
Agnew seemed to be steering clear of the issue - likely still on a good behaviour bond at the BBC after giving Jonathan Liew a talking to.
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Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
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@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
It's all so fake. They know as well as anyone else it's a load of crap, but they are covering their own asses by making sure the woke know they won't tolerate it for a second. They are all fucking spineless.
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
It's all so fake. They know as well as anyone else it's a load of crap, but they are covering their own asses by making sure the woke know they won't tolerate it for a second. They are all fucking spineless.
What makes it worse, if thats even possible, is they are ruling out one of their best performers from the Lords test. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
With a bit of luck someone digs in Virats social media past and finds something that can get him ruled out of the WTC final..
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@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
It's all so fake. They know as well as anyone else it's a load of crap, but they are covering their own asses by making sure the woke know they won't tolerate it for a second. They are all fucking spineless.
What makes it worse, if thats even possible, is they are ruling out one of their best performers from the Lords test. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
With a bit of luck someone digs in Virats social media past and finds something that can get him ruled out of the WTC final..
The Indian cricket board would do squat if that happened
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
It's all so fake. They know as well as anyone else it's a load of crap, but they are covering their own asses by making sure the woke know they won't tolerate it for a second. They are all fucking spineless.
A bunch of has beens ( or in Ramprakashs case a never was ) trying desperately to stay relevant. Pathetic.
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Re England's non acceptance of the declaration challenge. Yeah sure Root can do whatever he wants but maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have been talking himself and the team up less than a week earlier - We are going all out to wing all 7 tests this summer.
Didn't realise 'all out' meant feebly making no attempt at all to chase a very generous declaration.
England need a new captain IMO. Root's never been up to it. He seems incapable of making a decision on the field and has hardly led by example.
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@dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Re England's non acceptance of the declaration challenge. Yeah sure Root can do whatever he wants but maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have been talking himself and the team up less than a week earlier - We are going all out to wing all 7 tests this summer.
Didn't realise 'all out' meant feebly making no attempt at all to chase a very generous declaration.
England need a new captain IMO. Root's never been up to it. He seems incapable of making a decision on the field and has hardly led by example.
Added 20 years to his age by the looks of him too.
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@dogmeat agree completely, their effort indicated a lack of leadership. Root said afterwards they wanted to see how things played out before deciding if they would go for the total, instead of making a call on how he expects their batsmen to play. It's little wonder the young players went completely into their shell with no clear direction.
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Holy shit, will England even be able to field a team in the next test or will they all be cancelled ?
I wish I could say I’m surprised this is such a big issue but I’m not.
Three more England cricketers dragged into tweet storm - including Anderson
Ollie Robinson has been suspended from international cricket while his old offensive tweets are investigated by a disciplinary board
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@dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Re England's non acceptance of the declaration challenge. Yeah sure Root can do whatever he wants but maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have been talking himself and the team up less than a week earlier - We are going all out to wing all 7 tests this summer.
Didn't realise 'all out' meant feebly making no attempt at all to chase a very generous declaration.
England need a new captain IMO. Root's never been up to it. He seems incapable of making a decision on the field and has hardly led by example.
Classic case of assuming the best batsman ( and he is by a greater gulf than KW is to the rest of the BCs ) will make the best captain. It’s 50/50 at best.
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Stuart Broad absolutely does look like a lesbian. Nothing offensive about that, that's just a statement of fact.
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@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
One of them said something along the lines of the dressing room would bee very different with Ali & Archer in there, as opposed to the 11 white faces that it is now.
So that's nice of them to speak on behalf of the two non-white players. Who might, just might, feel that they live a world where they are allowed to have their own opinions.
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@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Re England's non acceptance of the declaration challenge. Yeah sure Root can do whatever he wants but maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have been talking himself and the team up less than a week earlier - We are going all out to wing all 7 tests this summer.
Didn't realise 'all out' meant feebly making no attempt at all to chase a very generous declaration.
England need a new captain IMO. Root's never been up to it. He seems incapable of making a decision on the field and has hardly led by example.
Classic case of assuming the best batsman ( and he is by a greater gulf than KW is to the rest of the BCs ) will make the best captain. It’s 50/50 at best.
It’s a bit Hobson’s choice though. Who are the other options? Stokes maybe but that’s about it.
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@majorrage said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Aggers, Vaughan and Ramprakash had articles on the BBC website, can't find Vaughan's now and his was the most OTT - as I said, suggesting that Robinson should be re-educated. Aggers was more reasoned but when stating that it was obvious that Robinson was, at the time of his tweets, a teenager with his own problems, still wanted him hung out to dry. Ramprakash was piling into Boris saying that his comments were "unwelcome". FFS unwelcome to whom? What does that even really mean?
One of them said something along the lines of the dressing room would bee very different with Ali & Archer in there, as opposed to the 11 white faces that it is now.
So that's nice of them to speak on behalf of the two non-white players. Who might, just might, feel that they live a world where they are allowed to have their own opinions.
Clever of them to know how other people feel.
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@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@dogmeat said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Re England's non acceptance of the declaration challenge. Yeah sure Root can do whatever he wants but maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have been talking himself and the team up less than a week earlier - We are going all out to wing all 7 tests this summer.
Didn't realise 'all out' meant feebly making no attempt at all to chase a very generous declaration.
England need a new captain IMO. Root's never been up to it. He seems incapable of making a decision on the field and has hardly led by example.
Classic case of assuming the best batsman ( and he is by a greater gulf than KW is to the rest of the BCs ) will make the best captain. It’s 50/50 at best.
It’s a bit Hobson’s choice though. Who are the other options? Stokes maybe but that’s about it.
Based on what ?
Beefy Botham was a shit captain by all accounts. Good player doesn’t always mean good captain.
