Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Should be noted Carins has a better bowling strike rate then Paddles...
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/bowling.html?class=1;id=5;type=team
Hadlee SR 50.8, Cairns 53.6?
I use alternate facts
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@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@virgil said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Should be noted Carins has a better bowling strike rate then Paddles...
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/bowling.html?class=1;id=5;type=team
Hadlee SR 50.8, Cairns 53.6?
I use alternate facts
Any bullshit that makes my boy Cairnsy look good is alright with me pal
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Any bullshit that makes my boy Cairnsy look good is alright with me pal
You and Chris still together? I thought that you had moved to that other Chris. Gayle or something?
I’d go full homo for either of them. What amazing players they were. Imagine seeing them bat together ? Wow…..
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@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Any bullshit that makes my boy Cairnsy look good is alright with me pal
You and Chris still together? I thought that you had moved to that other Chris. Gayle or something?
I’d go full homo for either of them. What amazing players they were. Imagine seeing them bat together ? Wow…..
Now I've done it. Take a deep breath and remember that this can't happen. I feel bad.
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Any bullshit that makes my boy Cairnsy look good is alright with me pal
You and Chris still together? I thought that you had moved to that other Chris. Gayle or something?
I’d go full homo for either of them. What amazing players they were. Imagine seeing them bat together ? Wow…..
Now I've done it. Take a deep breath and remember that this can't happen. I feel bad.
A man can have his fantasies…….
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
Yep:
- Hadlee
- Jamieson
- Southee
- Wagner
- Boult
- Hadlee used to bat 7, Smith 8, Braces 9 in the games that I vaguely remember
- There was always a suspicion that Hadlee could have has a better batting record if he wasn't having to take wickets at an average of 14 so we could win Tests
- Doesn't matter how supposedly "weak" his batting was, with that bowling attack we wouldn't be relying on runs from the tail to win tests
Boult drops out if we need a spinner, but except for in the sub continent, we don't need a spinner with those five.
I don’t get that view that Hadlee’s batting was weak. I saw him playing for Notts at Taunton once and he scored a ton in pretty much one session. Sure he was a bowling all rounder and his stats with the ball over shadow those with the bat, but context is everything. How often did he find himself trying to dig NZ out of the mire accompanied by some definite rabbits? That has to fuck with your stats.
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@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
Yep:
- Hadlee
- Jamieson
- Southee
- Wagner
- Boult
- Hadlee used to bat 7, Smith 8, Braces 9 in the games that I vaguely remember
- There was always a suspicion that Hadlee could have has a better batting record if he wasn't having to take wickets at an average of 14 so we could win Tests
- Doesn't matter how supposedly "weak" his batting was, with that bowling attack we wouldn't be relying on runs from the tail to win tests
Boult drops out if we need a spinner, but except for in the sub continent, we don't need a spinner with those five.
I don’t get that view that Hadlee’s batting was weak. I saw him playing for Notts at Taunton once and he scored a ton in pretty much one session. Sure he was a bowling all rounder and his stats with the ball over shadow those with the bat, but context is everything. How often did he find himself trying to dig NZ out of the mire accompanied by some definite rabbits? That has to fuck with your stats.
Yep, from memory he had a double ton for Notts as well. I think if he’d been in a more balanced NZ side, his batting stats would be even better.
I’m aware Jamieson has a much higher batting average so far, but I didn’t hesitate to put Paddles at 7 in the theoretical lineup from what I remember of his batting.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
Yep:
- Hadlee
- Jamieson
- Southee
- Wagner
- Boult
- Hadlee used to bat 7, Smith 8, Braces 9 in the games that I vaguely remember
- There was always a suspicion that Hadlee could have has a better batting record if he wasn't having to take wickets at an average of 14 so we could win Tests
- Doesn't matter how supposedly "weak" his batting was, with that bowling attack we wouldn't be relying on runs from the tail to win tests
Boult drops out if we need a spinner, but except for in the sub continent, we don't need a spinner with those five.
I don’t get that view that Hadlee’s batting was weak. I saw him playing for Notts at Taunton once and he scored a ton in pretty much one session. Sure he was a bowling all rounder and his stats with the ball over shadow those with the bat, but context is everything. How often did he find himself trying to dig NZ out of the mire accompanied by some definite rabbits? That has to fuck with your stats.
Yep, from memory he had a double ton for Notts as well. I think if he’d been in a more balanced NZ side, his batting stats would be even better.
I’m aware Jamieson has a much higher batting average so far, but I didn’t hesitate to put Paddles at 7 in the theoretical lineup from what I remember of his batting.
His average at 7 was 32 and was just over 30 for the last 10 years of his career. He's no Colin de Grandhomme, but he could bat a bit...
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@nevorian said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Any good celebration after party photos available anywhere yet?
Might see some of the after effects of celebrations tonight, in the T20 Blast. Surrey (Kylo) play Middlesex (Mitchell) - I think Jamieson is available for selection. Somerset (Conway) play Hampshire (CdGH) - both available.
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@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@catogrande said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
Yep:
- Hadlee
- Jamieson
- Southee
- Wagner
- Boult
- Hadlee used to bat 7, Smith 8, Braces 9 in the games that I vaguely remember
- There was always a suspicion that Hadlee could have has a better batting record if he wasn't having to take wickets at an average of 14 so we could win Tests
- Doesn't matter how supposedly "weak" his batting was, with that bowling attack we wouldn't be relying on runs from the tail to win tests
Boult drops out if we need a spinner, but except for in the sub continent, we don't need a spinner with those five.
I don’t get that view that Hadlee’s batting was weak. I saw him playing for Notts at Taunton once and he scored a ton in pretty much one session. Sure he was a bowling all rounder and his stats with the ball over shadow those with the bat, but context is everything. How often did he find himself trying to dig NZ out of the mire accompanied by some definite rabbits? That has to fuck with your stats.
Yep, from memory he had a double ton for Notts as well. I think if he’d been in a more balanced NZ side, his batting stats would be even better.
I’m aware Jamieson has a much higher batting average so far, but I didn’t hesitate to put Paddles at 7 in the theoretical lineup from what I remember of his batting.
His average at 7 was 32 and was just over 30 for the last 10 years of his career. He's no Colin de Grandhomme, but he could bat a bit...
Averages back then we’re much lower all round too.
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@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
I said Pacemen not placeholders
But yeah, he could bat seven at a pinch
Having just said Boult, imagine batsmen trying to face Hadlee at one end, and then the lefty at the other. In terms of like for like, replacing Southee would also make sense.
The thing I like about Southee is his variation. Given Paddles relentlessness, I’d take Southee over Boult.
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@crucial said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@booboo said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Good article. Not just because it praises NZ.
Very good.
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Day three, and the warm glow of that win just gets better and better.
2019 will always feel horrendous to think of (given some of the references back to it over the last week), but there’s now this nice sense of victory to help cancel it out straight away.
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