Klitschko, Fury, Parker, Takam & Joshua

MN5

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Hes not got real knock out power but he has overall strength. Legs are solid and his brute strength is good. Boxing can be about leaning on the other guy when you are tired. Limiting their work to trying to get your body off them. It uses a lot of energy but can give the guy exerting the weight a breather. Its an attribute Parker could have used more in his career and hopefully will learn from. But as to his punching power (which I thought he had plenty of) its good-ish. He needs to put on at least another 5-6kgs of muscle across the chest and arms especially. 
Some will say he will lose speed and itll be more weight to carry on defense(not that he carries them high now anyway) but he'll have dynamite in his punchs. 
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They're sometimes mutually exclusive.....Ali hit very very fast but not especially hard compared to other bangers of his era like Foreman/Shavers/Liston. Could the punching ( Parkers ) also be down to technique too ?

raznomore

As mentioned there were some very amateur looking right hand slaps. 
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kiwiinmelb

I watched a replay , I also wonder about Barry , 
 
After a combo is thrown he just stands there , flat footed , chin up , hands down , 
 
Im no coach , but done a bit of amateur training ,
 
he has no head movement , so surely hands should remain high and a sideways step out of the firing line away from the right hand

kiwiinmelb

Rumors circulating that it may suit Joshua to fight Joe sooner rather than later . 
With potential fights against fury , haye and wilder on the horizon with nothing set in stone , they may consider the mandatory first to get it out of the way .

Crucial

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Rumors circulating that it may suit Joshua to fight Joe sooner rather than later . 
With potential fights against fury , haye and wilder on the horizon with nothing set in stone , they may consider the mandatory first to get it out of the way .
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Would make sense before JP can train some more. Brush him aside now, Up your record and $$$ before getting into the big ones.

kiwiinmelb

Joe fighting Solomon Haumono in July 
 
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JK

Hmmm not sure it's the best move but at least it will keep him busy

antipodean

He'd have harder sparring sessions.

MN5

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Joe fighting Solomon Haumono in July 
 
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Surely he can put away another ex leaguie who thinks he's a boxer ? ( although SHs record is very good )

taniwharugby

The real fixture
 
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MN5

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The real fixture
 
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He's still played less sports than SBW

taniwharugby

NRL - NFL - Rugby
 
vs
 
NRL - Rugby - Boxing
 
Or are you counting 7s and 15s as 2 different sports?

MN5

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NRL - NFL - Rugby
 
vs
 
NRL - Rugby - Boxing
 
Or are you counting 7s and 15s as 2 different sports?
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yes

kiwiinmelb

Solomon is an ex league player , but does have some boxing pedigree , an amateur background as a kid , 
and his dad held the Australian heavyweight title, 
He is quite technically correct , but Joe should be way too good for him with his power and hand speed
 
Interesting in Australia , its being billed as Solomons chance at a world title , win this and he gets the mandatory spot against Joshua , 
 
which is what Joe is up against now, he doesnt need a banana skin

Crucial

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NRL - NFL - Rugby
 
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NRL - Rugby - Boxing
 
Or are you counting 7s and 15s as 2 different sports?
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I would. Different physical demands, different tactics and patterns to learn. You effectively have to re-train your body and mind to play Sevens. It is just the basic catch, pass, run skills that are the same (you could then argue that League is the same as well).
 
So for the sake of this small argument and a sportsperson training and playing different sports with different requirements then SBW wins (just).
 
I don't quite know why SBW gets so much derision about playing different sports though. He is basically playing variations of one sport and adding in taking something his does in his training to a competitive environment as well.
Now compare that to Jeff Wilson who was a prodigious talent in rugby and cricket, with national representation and by all accounts could have probably played for the Tall lacks as well if he had the time to dedicate to a third sport. No one gives him shit about that.

MN5

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I would. Different physical demands, different tactics and patterns to learn. You effectively have to re-train your body and mind to play Sevens. It is just the basic catch, pass, run skills that are the same (you could then argue that League is the same as well).
 
So for the sake of this small argument and a sportsperson training and playing different sports with different requirements then SBW wins (just).
 
I don't quite know why SBW gets so much derision about playing different sports though. He is basically playing variations of one sport and adding in taking something his does in his training to a competitive environment as well.
Now compare that to Jeff Wilson who was a prodigious talent in rugby and cricket, with national representation and by all accounts could have probably played for the Tall lacks as well if he had the time to dedicate to a third sport. No one gives him shit about that.
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You'd have to say Goldie was a better all round "talent" ( not necessarily "athlete" ) than SBW or Hayne based on what he did. A lot of guys are very good at our winter and summer codes ( Kieran Read and Leon MacDonald to mention a couple, Rod Latham played rugby for Canterbury too ) but it's easy to forget that Wilson did all this to the highest level AND was a brilliant basketballer too which he never found time to play......
 
I always wonder where he would have stood in the echelon of Black Caps had he chosen to pursue that....there was a whole lot of decent ODI all rounders at the time so despite the All Blacks being better at what they did than the BCs ever were at that period I suspect he made the right choice.

kiwiinmelb

Not popular to give him credit but Mundine is one of the better all round athletes I have seen . 
Elite nrl player , played origin , boxing world title , Australian junior hurdles champion , and the Sydney Kings basketball were looking for his signature as a teenager ,

SammyC

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I don't quite know why SBW gets so much derision about playing different sports though. He is basically playing variations of one sport and adding in taking something his does in his training to a competitive environment as well.
Now compare that to Jeff Wilson who was a prodigious talent in rugby and cricket, with national representation and by all accounts could have probably played for the Tall lacks as well if he had the time to dedicate to a third sport. No one gives him shit about that.
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SBW gets "derision" because he changes so often.
 
Once Goldie made the All Blacks he concentrated fully on rugby.
 
isn't it obvious?
 
 
Last post I'll make on that... talking about SBW in this thread is disrespectful to real boxers like Parker

MN5

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SBW gets "derision" because he changes so often.
 
Once Goldie made the All Blacks he concentrated fully on rugby.
 
isn't it obvious?
 
 
Last post I'll make on that... talking about SBW in this thread is disrespectful to real boxers like Parker
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Talking about SBW as a top boxer is the equivalent of Joseph Parker concentrating on Rugby and getting as far as a premier team in Auckland.....but no further.......

Dice

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You'd have to say Goldie was a better all round "talent" ( not necessarily "athlete" ) than SBW or Hayne based on what he did. A lot of guys are very good at our winter and summer codes ( Kieran Read and Leon MacDonald to mention a couple, Rod Latham played rugby for Canterbury too ) but it's easy to forget that Wilson did all this to the highest level AND was a brilliant basketballer too which he never found time to play......
 
I always wonder where he would have stood in the echelon of Black Caps had he chosen to pursue that....there was a whole lot of decent ODI all rounders at the time so despite the All Blacks being better at what they did than the BCs ever were at that period I suspect he made the right choice.
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Pretty sure I heard Goldie say it's a myth that he's good at basketball. He said it's a myth he really likes though.

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