Rugby Commentators/Presenters
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Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you are a good commentator.
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@MN5 said in Bledisloe 2:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:
Fuck SBW is bad. Why is he employed? Surely it's some sort of work experience, we're not actually paying him are we?
For someone who criticised him lots as a player I actually find his “aw shucks” demeanour quite endearing.
He’s revolutionised broadcasting too, I’ve never heard anyone refer to Dave Rennie as “bro” before !
The demeanour is fine, it's the absolutely pathetic 12 year old kid could do better analysis that's the problem. It's such a waste of time that it hurts listening to it. Seriously the best you can hope for is for him to get a meaningless cliche correct.
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe 2:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:
Fuck SBW is bad. Why is he employed? Surely it's some sort of work experience, we're not actually paying him are we?
He is absolutely terrible. Some people simply should not be in front of the camera. I'd even put McGod in that category. But he's too busy flying helicopters and shit.
I don't like Kieran Read as a comments guy either
He’s pretty poor too it must be said. Loved him as a player but his “expert comments” are very bland and inoffensive. Definitely doesn’t want to bite the hand that’S feeding him and say what he really thinks.
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@voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:
Fuck SBW is bad. Why is he employed? Surely it's some sort of work experience, we're not actually paying him are we?
I wonder if because he is such a well known figure in both codes , and Aussie rugby struggles for attention,
They see it as a marketing tool to have this celebrity type ex player
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SBW's deal is with Channel 9 so he commentates both League & Rugby (not to mention his boxing events on Stan etc)
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@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe 2:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:
Fuck SBW is bad. Why is he employed? Surely it's some sort of work experience, we're not actually paying him are we?
He is absolutely terrible. Some people simply should not be in front of the camera. I'd even put McGod in that category. But he's too busy flying helicopters and shit.
I don't like Kieran Read as a comments guy either
Yeah he's terrible.
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@KiwiMurph said in Bledisloe 2:
Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you are a good commentator.
Yep. Marshall, Muliaina, Wilson and even Parsons are good. They're knowledgeable, fluent and think quickly on their feet. Unfortunately SBW does none of that, it's so painful to watch I actually feel sorry for him. For those of us in Aus watching Stan, Turunui and Harrison are the best of the bunch.
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@Kruse said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@taniwharugby said in Rugby Commentators:
@crucial is the guy on the right Derpus?
I'm no lip-reader, but he does seem to be ranting "Super Rugby Trans Ta$man is shit, let's take our ball and go home and just play with ourselves".
To be fair Derpus also rants on Australian Rugby, so perhaps it should read
"Super Rugby Trans Ta$man is shit, let's take our ball and go home and just play with ourselves. And we won't even get that right".
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@MN5 said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Bledisloe 2:
@voodoo said in Bledisloe 2:
Fuck SBW is bad. Why is he employed? Surely it's some sort of work experience, we're not actually paying him are we?
He is absolutely terrible. Some people simply should not be in front of the camera. I'd even put McGod in that category. But he's too busy flying helicopters and shit.
I don't like Kieran Read as a comments guy either
He’s pretty poor too it must be said. Loved him as a player but his “expert comments” are very bland and inoffensive. Definitely doesn’t want to bite the hand that’S feeding him and say what he really thinks.
You could say that about nearly all of the Sky talking heads. Then Kirwan is the opposite extreme where he just spouts rubbish.
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I like Read. Sure he looks like a deer in the headlights, amd he's not inspiring, but that's not his job. I think he's really observant of the game tactics and asks insightful (but not challenging) questions
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It's often a very fine line between appearing genuine and not just spouting boilerplate rubbish. I don't watch NRL very often but I get the impression that many of their commentators are just too overrehearsed and almost appear carbon copies of each other.
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My tolerance for Parsons as a commentator is low. We've got the increase in volume when he gets excited, his overuse of the same phrase in replays (Go you good thing!), and a desire to inject quotes into the commentary.
And speaking of commentators, I didn't even get to watch all of the Wellington-Waikato game, but in what I did see Laban was going all-Nisbo by mis-identifying Waikato players.
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Either Sonny-Bill is having a massive laugh or he actually forgets he’s on camera. It’s too funny to not watch!
I don’t mind Harrison. Turunui is a bit of a whinger.
Parsons and Hames, nup can’t listen to either.
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I was 15mins to the Test before I realised why it was so much more enjoyable than normal. No TJ.
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Bring back John Howson and transistor radio.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Either Sonny-Bill is having a massive laugh or he actually forgets he’s on camera. It’s too funny to not watch!
I don’t mind Harrison. Turunui is a bit of a whinger.
Parsons and Hames, nup can’t listen to either.
Potentially train wreck TV. Compulsive viewing
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@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Either Sonny-Bill is having a massive laugh or he actually forgets he’s on camera. It’s too funny to not watch!
I don’t mind Harrison. Turunui is a bit of a whinger.
Parsons and Hames, nup can’t listen to either.
I agree about Harrison, much prefer him as commentator to player. But not the most incisive on strategy
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@broughie said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Bring back John Howson and transistor radio.
He was awesome. Showing your age.
IIRC he gave away the head commentary job for Radio NZ as a result of the '81 Springbok tour. Set up an independent news and sport broadcast company.
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@broughie said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Bring back John Howson and transistor radio.
Or Winston McCarthy and the crystal set.
And no, well before my time.
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Justin Harrison is a funny one. Couldn't stand him as a player and is extremely biased towards any Aussie SR team, but at the same time I like him and his clear passion for Aussie rugby. I actually don't mind the aussie commentary at all tbh.
Jeff Wilson and Ken Laban are the only 2 that I have any time for out of the NZ guys.
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@African-Monkey said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Justin Harrison is a funny one. Couldn't stand him as a player and is extremely biased towards any Aussie SR team, but at the same time I like him and his clear passion for Aussie rugby. I actually don't mind the aussie commentary at all tbh.
Jeff Wilson and Ken Laban are the only 2 that I have any time for out of the NZ guys.
Agree, I enjoy Justin Harrison. He's openly in favour of Aussie rugby and their teams, but he enjoys any good play, as well as a bit of push 'n shove.
Basically I enjoy anybody whose talking when Sean Maloney isn't. I really can't stand him as a commentator.
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@African-Monkey said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Justin Harrison is a funny one. Couldn't stand him as a player and is extremely biased towards any Aussie SR team, but at the same time I like him and his clear passion for Aussie rugby. I actually don't mind the aussie commentary at all tbh.
Jeff Wilson and Ken Laban are the only 2 that I have any time for out of the NZ guys.
Like Justin H too. Also Joel Stransky on any Saffa commentary - knowledgeable, calm and doesn't knows when to speak and keep quiet
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Justin Harrison makes me want to.cut my ears off. Says a lot without saying anything and just repeats the same crap every game. "Win the contest". "Run at inside shoulders".
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The crop of commentators at the moment are all shocking imo.
Marshal makes me want to find him and sock him.
Nisbo should have retired 10 years ago.
Johnson average at best.
Jk one of the few I don't mind
Wilson ok but very biased
Mills sounds about as intellectual as a five year old.
Rikki s average
Laban is way to over eager at times.
Hames waaaaay to much dribble and is an extremely boring talker
Parsons like Hames but more thick
SBW sounds like a complete retard
Mertens total windger
Harrison excessively biasedCan't remember the rest (yes I know some are aussies)
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@Mackerzzzz said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
The crop of commentators at the moment are all shocking imo.
Marshal makes me want to find him and sock him.
Nisbo should have retired 10 years ago.
Johnson average at best.
Jk one of the few I don't mind
Wilson ok but very biased
Mills sounds about as intellectual as a five year old.
Rikki s average
Laban is way to over eager at times.
Hames waaaaay to much dribble and is an extremely boring talker
Parsons like Hames but more thick
SBW sounds like a complete retard
Mertens total windger
Harrison excessively biasedCan't remember the rest (yes I know some are aussies)
Comes across as an overexcited school kid.
I actually don’t mind Mertz, but he does get things dead wrong at times (eg the Papalii incident).
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@ACT-Crusader said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Mackerzzzz said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
The crop of commentators at the moment are all shocking imo.
Marshal makes me want to find him and sock him.
Nisbo should have retired 10 years ago.
Johnson average at best.
Jk one of the few I don't mind
Wilson ok but very biased
Mills sounds about as intellectual as a five year old.
Rikki s average
Laban is way to over eager at times.
Hames waaaaay to much dribble and is an extremely boring talker
Parsons like Hames but more thick
SBW sounds like a complete retard
Mertens total windger
Harrison excessively biasedCan't remember the rest (yes I know some are aussies)
Comes across as an overexcited school kid.
I actually don’t mind Mertz, but he does get things dead wrong at times (eg the Papalii incident).
Pffft, Paps did a staple bro, he was asking for it!!!
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@Mackerzzzz said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
The crop of commentators at the moment are all shocking imo.
Marshal makes me want to find him and sock him.
Nisbo should have retired 10 years ago.
Johnson average at best.
Jk one of the few I don't mind
Wilson ok but very biased
Mills sounds about as intellectual as a five year old.
Rikki s average
Laban is way to over eager at times.
Hames waaaaay to much dribble and is an extremely boring talker
Parsons like Hames but more thick
SBW sounds like a complete retard
Mertens total windger
Harrison excessively biasedCan't remember the rest (yes I know some are aussies)
Well I like Mils, Laban (I don't mind someone who actually knows where players come from and loves the game) and Hames maybe boring to you, but I find interesting as he knows the laws and game, same as Parsons he knows the game.
I don't need the commentators to be exactly as I want, and actually enjoy the difference, and if one or two annoy me now and then just kind of shrug my shoulders. I pretty easy to please, as I take much more notice of what I see anyway, not what I hear, think it's why I like watching games live at park. -
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@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
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@dogmeat said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
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@Smudge said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@dogmeat said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
Key line is probably;
"There’s a purpose and a direction towards Maori and Pacific island input and of course female sport like never before. The way of the world as they say."
So essentially being put out to pasture for fresh faces. Not new for TV, but the new commentators have a lot to follow.
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@Smudge said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
Not a fan of his rugby commentary but he's been doing a good job in Aussie commentating the cricket. He asks questions and squeezes some relevant info out of their blokey commentators
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@Kirwan said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Smudge said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@dogmeat said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
Key line is probably;
"There’s a purpose and a direction towards Maori and Pacific island input and of course female sport like never before. The way of the world as they say."
So essentially being put out to pasture for fresh faces. Not new for TV, but the new commentators have a lot to follow.
Gutted to hear this but reading between the lines Sky is obviously pandering towards that direction our society is taking.
Let's hope this new blood so to speak isn't a detriment to our viewing pleasure and Sky actually employee people who are good at their jobs, no matter their demographic.
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@Canes4life said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Kirwan said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Smudge said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@dogmeat said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
Key line is probably;
"There’s a purpose and a direction towards Maori and Pacific island input and of course female sport like never before. The way of the world as they say."
So essentially being put out to pasture for fresh faces. Not new for TV, but the new commentators have a lot to follow.
Gutted to hear this but reading between the lines Sky is obviously pandering towards that direction our society is taking.
Let's hope this new blood so to speak isn't a detriment to our viewing pleasure and Sky actually employee people who are good at their jobs, no matter their demographic.
Nisbett hasn't been good at his job for years and they cancelled TJ's show that he was actually good at, so don't expect much.
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We've seen the introduction of Jeff McTainsh and Rikki Swannell as main commentators in recent years. Sky need to get rid of some of the ex-players as sideline comments/interviewers.
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@Nepia said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Canes4life said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Kirwan said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Smudge said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@dogmeat said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
@Stargazer 'd think he'd give it away and retire, but I guess he needs a gig to keep himself in pies and doughnuts and ...
I mean he's even older and fatter than me!
Can't agree with him about Nisbett and Johnson. They're even more pensionable than Smith (performance wise at least for TJ).
He's still very much a class act in the commentary box. He'll be in hot demand in Australia and England for a year or three yet. No need to retire if he's enjoying it.
Key line is probably;
"There’s a purpose and a direction towards Maori and Pacific island input and of course female sport like never before. The way of the world as they say."
So essentially being put out to pasture for fresh faces. Not new for TV, but the new commentators have a lot to follow.
Gutted to hear this but reading between the lines Sky is obviously pandering towards that direction our society is taking.
Let's hope this new blood so to speak isn't a detriment to our viewing pleasure and Sky actually employee people who are good at their jobs, no matter their demographic.
Nisbett hasn't been good at his job for years and they cancelled TJ's show that he was actually good at, so don't expect much.
Gone from being boring and competent to boring and incompetent.
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@Stargazer said in Rugby Commentators/Presenters:
Thats a shame. Wasn't a big fan of him in the rugby, but a huge fan in the cricket. I know he's very well thought of over here, so I suspect he'll pick up some gigs over the new few years up here. It's almost a certainty he will be in the commentary box for the UK broadcaster of the England series.