Crusaders v Chiefs
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@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner Weber got dudded in one of the worst TMO decisions you will ever see. End result was a Crusaders try and Weber being binned in what should have been a Mounga knock on.
Without seeing it, how the fuck does that happen?
In my opinion the ref and TMOs often over complicate it by trying to be too technical.
Just keep it simple, if it looks like a dog and barks like a dog, chances are it’s a fucking dog, and don’t need a DNA sample to confirm it....
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One thing New Zealand consistently fails to develop is competent referees. Anyone with a feel for the game plays.
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@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
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@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
How many times do you need to watch the same angle before going to another?
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@crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
What’s the fucking point of a fucking captains challenge if the fucking TMO is a fucking blind fuck!
Tbe mistake made was having only one captain’s review. It should be like cricket. If you are successful you retain your review.
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@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
There's a balance. I don't think looking at 2 or 3 views/angles is a problem.
There are times when the views/angles gets into double digits though.
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@antipodean said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
How many times do you need to watch the same angle before going to another?
As many times as it takes. It's easy for us as fans to make a call because there are no repercussions if we get it wrong, but the officials have to get it right. I don't care if they take their time.
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The Cheifs lost to a much, much better team on the day and the ref's stuff-ups only altered the winning margin.
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@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
How many times do you need to watch the same angle before going to another?
As many times as it takes. It's easy for us as fans to make a call because there are no repercussions if we get it wrong, but the officials have to get it right. I don't care if they take their time.
As many times as it takes to form an incorrect opinion clearly corrected by a different camera angle?
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@antipodean said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@antipodean said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@crazy-horse said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@kiwimurph said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@gunner essentially what seemed to happen was the TMO made a quick call from one viewing/angle when in fact the second angle clearly showed what happened.
And yet we have a chorus of people saying speed the decisions up. Even during this thread. Fuck being an official, they can't bloody win.
How many times do you need to watch the same angle before going to another?
As many times as it takes. It's easy for us as fans to make a call because there are no repercussions if we get it wrong, but the officials have to get it right. I don't care if they take their time.
As many times as it takes to form an incorrect opinion clearly corrected by a different camera angle?
Had a feeling you would say that, but that is nitbwhat I am getting at. No argument they made an error in the in the knock on call. I am referring to the call to speed up their decision making while at the same time insisting they get everything right. The two do not necessarily go hand in hand.
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@old-samurai-jack said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
The Cheifs lost to a much, much better team on the day and the ref's stuff-ups only altered the winning margin.
Absolutely. It was just massively disappointing to get chopped down like that on top of the skill gap. That just negated some of the heart and effort that was keeping them close.
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So, did anybody else see the jersey pull or did I imagine it?
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@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
Barrett needed to get in on that penalty action!
I think he sympathised with them
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@crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
What’s the fucking point of a fucking captains challenge if the fucking TMO is a fucking blind fuck!
Small sample size so far but I have got the impression that the TMOs are approaching the captains review as if the captain is wrong. There have been a couple (can’t remember exact ones) where they only had a very quick look and brushed it off. Nothing like the 10 replays of a clear grounding they often watch for a normal referral.
Stupid. But is anyone really surprised this isn’t working?
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@pukunui said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
What’s the fucking point of a fucking captains challenge if the fucking TMO is a fucking blind fuck!
Small sample size so far but I have got the impression that the TMOs are approaching the captains review as if the captain is wrong. There have been a couple (can’t remember exact ones) where they only had a very quick look and brushed it off. Nothing like the 10 replays of a clear grounding they often watch for a normal referral.
Stupid. But is anyone really surprised this isn’t working?
TMOs have been fucking up clear calls for years.Why do you think that is? Serious question.
