Crusaders v Chiefs
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@crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
Back in the Chiefs good days they would get past the Saders with bullying and niggle. Messam and BBBR would get the ugly on and annoy the fuck out of them.
I don’t see anyone with those attributes in this current squad.It was the support cast too: Lats, Clarke, Sona, Hika/Schwalger
(edit: TKB was probably in the upper level and a key piece)
That second layer of great pros are missed.
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@crucial said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
Back in the Chiefs good days they would get past the Saders with bullying and niggle. Messam and BBBR would get the ugly on and annoy the fuck out of them.
I don’t see anyone with those attributes in this current squad.not to mention that BBBR and Messam are miles better players than basically everyone in the squad.
Yes we bullied them, and it was hilarious watching national heroes completely not used to it. But we then backed it up by being a well-coached side full of talented players.
Right now we are neither of those things.
The player drain that previously smashed the NPC is now smashing Super Rugby.
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@mariner4life said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
The player drain that previously smashed the NPC is now smashing Super Rugby.
I'm optimistic that Covid will be good for that in the medium term. PLayers aren't heading overseas as much, and a number are looking to come home. It's a good thing for NZ Rugby
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@nzzp said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
The player drain that previously smashed the NPC is now smashing Super Rugby.
I'm optimistic that Covid will be good for that in the medium term. PLayers aren't heading overseas as much, and a number are looking to come home. It's a good thing for NZ Rugby
they are?
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@mariner4life said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@nzzp said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
@mariner4life said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
The player drain that previously smashed the NPC is now smashing Super Rugby.
I'm optimistic that Covid will be good for that in the medium term. PLayers aren't heading overseas as much, and a number are looking to come home. It's a good thing for NZ Rugby
they are?
good catch, not sure I have anything to back that up. There's a bunch heading to the Force, and I can see the attraction of playing in NZ. The money is falling out of the overseas leagues right now, so I figured that would lead to NZ being more attracitve ... but as you note, I don't have shit to back that opinion up with. It's teh Fern way.
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There's definitely less money in Europe and it isn't as appealing as a lifestyle in the short term. Plus the world cup winning Boks must be top targets, especially with nothing going on in SA and finances even worse.
But when you see some of the teams lining out, there is definitely the feeling this is one of the weaker years for NZ.
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@mofitzy_ said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
There's definitely less money in Europe and it isn't as appealing as a lifestyle in the short term. Plus the world cup winning Boks must be top targets, especially with nothing going on in SA and finances even worse.
But when you see some of the teams lining out, there is definitely the feeling this is one of the weaker years for NZ.
the squads look like current AB squad members, and kids.
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@bovidae said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
You've omitted the player who the Crusaders moaned about the most - big Ben T.
The Chiefs were in the fight in the game in Chch last year so stranger things have happened. Let's see who McMillan picks this week.
I actually had him there but removed him as he was really a young'un who fed off the energy and culture created by those other guys (esp. Sona). He was a menace to them though, those were fun years.
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Eh I'll give it a crack coz I'm bored. I expect McMillan to bring some changes, especially in the backs.
- Reuben O'Neill
- Samisoni Taukei'aho
- Angus Ta'avao
- Tupou Vaa'i
- Naitoa Ah Kuoi
- Samipeni Finau
- Sam Cane
- Luke Jacobson
- Brad Weber
- Damian McKenzie
- Etene Nanai-Seturo
- Alex Nankivell
- ALB
- Jonah Lowe
- Shaun Stevenson
Reserves:
16. Bradley Slater
17. Ollie Norris
18. Sione Mafileo
19. Stan van den Hoven
20. Simon Parker
21. Xavier Roe
22. Kaleb Trask
23. Sean WainuiI'd pick ALB at 12 usually but Wainui was problematic and Nankivell is a better 12 than 13. Hopefully I didn't name any injured players.
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@yeetyaah said in Crusaders v Chiefs:
Eh I'll give it a crack coz I'm bored. I expect McMillan to bring some changes, especially in the backs.
- Reuben O'Neill
- Samisoni Taukei'aho
- Angus Ta'avao
- Tupou Vaa'i
- Naitoa Ah Kuoi
- Samipeni Finau
- Sam Cane
- Luke Jacobson
- Brad Weber
- Damian McKenzie
- Etene Nanai-Seturo
- Alex Nankivell
- ALB
- Jonah Lowe
- Shaun Stevenson
Reserves:
16. Bradley Slater
17. Ollie Norris
18. Sione Mafileo
19. Stan van den Hoven
20. Simon Parker
21. Xavier Roe
22. Kaleb Trask
23. Sean WainuiI'd pick ALB at 12 usually but Wainui was problematic and Nankivell is a better 12 than 13. Hopefully I didn't name any injured players.
Probably better, but still Saders by lots. No help up front in that bench, and not strong enough in the starting 15 to hold back the matrix.
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