World Cup Final match thread

jegga

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Firstly, I didn't say that part was a fact; I number-pointed the facts from the video. I wasn't aware that there was a literary critique where I'm required to sub-head everything else.
 
Though the bit about being an idiot for stomping with the TMO availability is absolutely, 100% true. Are you saying you WOULDN'T be an idiot for stomping someone? Please elaborate.
 
 
 
 
They don't. But for incidents that go unpunished on a rugby field there are always two sides to a story.
 
As for a link - well I only have still photos but they tell a pretty good story. First two are smaller so you can see time and approach. Then the impact point blown up. Basically the same as Kepu.
 
<img src="http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gif" alt="attachicon.gif"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1896'>poey2.png</a>
 
<img src="http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gif" alt="attachicon.gif"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1895'>poey1.png</a>
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Not the same SBW was on the ground when Kepu was wrestling him. 
 
Like you said we won and your boys gave us a game.

Kirwan

How cute, NTA is using the 'but they did it too' defence. By my count you have four more AB infractions to find to even up your teams filth.

jegga

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On that last little bit ... similarly McCaw isn't so stupid as to trip someone but he did cop a yellow card a week or so ago for being just that. Spontaneous reactions happen.
 
 
I'm not particularly wedded to the incident at all, NTA, other than to have a bit of fun (as "unfunny" as you find it to be) at the expense of the long running "Richie is a cheat - Our Davey is Lovely and better than him anyway, so there!" mantra chanted interminably by the kiddies on local rugby web sites, which automatically absolves the crowd favourite (who they portray as a saint) from all wrong. It commenced today at half time, focusing on Sir Richie and Nigel Owens.
 
You may not have seen this longer, slightly better vision <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='

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</a> I assume you have seen this <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://vine.co/v/e3OtuWB9Ad3'>https://vine.co/v/e3OtuWB9Ad3</a>
 
Perhaps McCaw gets up distractedly rubbing his head for the reason he is wondering how long there is to go, I dunno.
 
As innocuous as I see it all to be in the grand scheme of things, Crucial does make the germane point subsequently that the modern administrators have more rigid laws and expectations and they have acted on them.
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Mick that first video has been taken down, if anyone finds another I'd be interested in seeing it.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

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I saw that on another site last week. Seems like a done deal.
 
However, these are sporting contracts, so maybe there is a plan. Douglas came back from Ireland after barely a year, and that was troubled with injury. Think we forked out $300K for the privilege and it nearly paid off - probably our best T5 forward around the park. Big loss early in the game.
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From elsewhere:
 
"Quade Cooperâ€™s Wallabies career has hit a significant hurdle, and his rugby sevens dream looks dead in the water, with the talented five-eighth set to be unveiled as a Toulon player on Monday.
 
On the eve of Australiaâ€™s World Cup final with the All Blacks, the French club released a statement confirming Cooper would be presented to the media on Monday â€“ when most of his teammates will be flying home.
 
The Queensland Reds playmaker signed a two-year deal with Toulon in April, only to attempt to back out of the contract in the hope of signing a new deal with Australian rugby â€“ with one eye on playing sevens rugby at the 2016 Olympics in Rio de Janeiro."
 
I have read somewhere that if he continued to renig on the deal done it would cost him $200,000.

NTA

Kirwan - I'm not doing this as a points scoring exercise. I'm using it to point out the referees either missed things or judged them in a different light to other incidents based on what they saw. Some of them I'm less happy with than others. Not going to change anything now.
 
For example: people above are talking about Foley being offside for Genia's kick on the second try. Again, not going to change anything now, but its interesting to look at these and see where refs and their team are making calls and where they're not. Particularly as they're allowed to use the TMO two phases back edit from a try being scored /edit and could, in theory, check on anything in that period like the bloody NRL do (for which I'm thankful they're not).
 
And I don't see you popping snide remarks at them.
 
 
 
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Not the same SBW was on the ground when Kepu was wrestling him. 
 
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? Apologies - I thought you were referring to the Kepu high shot on Carter and I was using the Kaino one as a parallel.
 
Kepu got penalised - probably lucky not to get a yellow.
 
The high shot on Kaino was referred to the TMO on the run. Was about 35m out dead in front, so goal kicking opportunity (tactical advantage). There was no subsequent input from the TMO, or before there was, Owens called advantaged over just as we got to the 22, out on the tram tracks on the right hand side. I thought that was very odd, given to this point we've seen TMOs go back for foul play or refs pull play up to look at it in this RWC. It didn't look like advantage.
 
Guess World Rugby need to work on the TMO guidelines a bit more, and should NOT be introducing them at RWC but have little option given the different broadcast setups for Test rugby across the world

voodoo

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Would have been worth going to the TMO for that try. Foley looked about half a metre offside when Genia kicked the ball. Still, swings and roundabouts and all that.
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I just had another look, Foley was fine on this one, really well timed

jegga

Unco

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Not according to reports. His agent apparently signed something which means QC is out of pocket $200K if he renegs, and the owner of the club (Toulon? Yes, Toulon) said he'll come after the ARU if he needs to - not because of the money, but just because he's a billionaire and could probably buy the ARU if he wanted. See below - this was April. Think Quade had cold feet after McKenzie left, and Foley started getting game time. Plus all the "ITS A NSW CONSPIRACY!" shit flying around. 
 
There were a LOT of angry QLDers unprepared to accept McKenzie was anything but a saint.
 
Anyway, the word is that Quade is going to honour his deal and play 2 years in France. He meets the 7 year rule but not the 60 Test rule (58 caps I think) so would be toast as far as Wallaby selection goes.
 
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Fair enough. I hadn't been following it too closely since the talk was that he was trying to get out of the contract, Toulon's owner packed a hissy and they were looking for a replacement. Sounds like the rich douche got his way then.

Toddy

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I just had another look, Foley was fine on this one, really well timed
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Yeah, just saw the replay and you're right. He timed it perfectly.

voodoo

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Gotta love rugby

NTA

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Fair enough. I hadn't been following it too closely since the talk was that he was trying to get out of the contract, Toulon's owner packed a hissy and they were looking for a replacement. Sounds like the rich douche got his way then.
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Like I said - he could probably buy the ARU with his pocket money so given the lack of minutes for Quade lately, it may not be a surprise that the ARU were willing to say "oh darn! We forgot to give Quade another 2 caps" or whatever it is they need.

Hooroo

Ok so I've watched the 2011 final once and the 2015 final four times. Been a rugby beer and BBQ day all day.

jegga

jegga

Watched the replay, Hanson has ice in his veins. Barret scores the try and Hanson displays all the emotion of a man who found out MacDonalds have taken his eighth favourite hamburger off the menu.

Mick Gold Coast QLD

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Old blokes who enjoy their photography just love it when they jag a shot such as that - splendid work by the photographer, with the most fortuitous timing.

cyclopath

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Nice photobomb by Tana in a RWC Winning Captains' shot! :good:

antipodean

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Toddy" data-cid="537825" data-time="1446349187">Would have been worth going to the TMO for that try. Foley looked about half a metre offside when Genia kicked the ball. Still, swings and roundabouts and all that.</blockquote> Nah he was onside. I checked thinking much the same as everyone else. It was just brilliant timing and execution.

taniwharugby

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Ok so I've watched the 2011 final once and the 2015 final four times. Been a rugby beer and BBQ day all day.
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I've watched the full build up, game post match interviews, press conference twice and the tries several more, today, has been fantabulous :)

jegga

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Nice photobomb by Tana in a RWC Winning Captains' shot! :good:
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There was a caption with the photo " watching the game with world cup winning captains [not me]".

Richie8-7

Genia 35 mins in, clear yellow card. Owens seemed keen on no cards...for them anyway. Could have given 5 that I've seen so far.

The Silver Fern

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