World Cup Final match thread

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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="537642" data-time="1446332115">
Has any other sin binning had this much impact on a game? I think Oz were dead and buried until Smith was yellowed. We were crushing them in the lineout, killing them in the scrums, and had been accumulating points. I think Smith stays on the field and it's a comfortable win. You have to give credit to the Wallabies, they took their opportunities well. 
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If it was a penalty only, most likely we still score from the maul. After that it's conjecture as Smith could have made another error - but you could reasonably say the try TK scored was a reflection of Smith's absence. 
As for cards affecting a RWC game, you could argue the red on Sam Warburton in the 2011 SF changed an entire RWC final.

Kirwan

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="allblackfan" data-cid="537645" data-time="1446332505">Just watched the replay, won't be the last time today, and BB's try was an awesome thing to behold. The way he chased, didn't panic and try to gather the ball too early but rather controlled it with the little kick on then gathered and scored. All class!!</blockquote>
 
Best part was the grin before he regathered the ball. He knew he was in and what it meant.

NTA

Most importantly, for the first time in a long time, the team is acknowledging the fans. Cheika has really changed the thinking on these guys to realise what a privileged position all that hard work gets you, and that getting there is only the start.
 
To get those sorts of cultural changes in at the top level, inside 12 months, and top off a season in which we beat every team we faced, is nothing short of remarkable.
 
The lessons from the ABs post-2007 ("good men make good ABs") could not be more clear, particularly when you realise that our RWC wins in 91 and 99 were built on guys who grew up playing for the love of the game, not the money. Hopefully that filters into the other layers of both the playing and administration groups, and after Cheika's relative success over the train wreck we were heading for under McKenzie, the ARU needs to start barring up for the challenge.
 
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1699/ArticleID/16901/Wallabies-character-gave-Cheika-pride.aspx'>http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/1699/ArticleID/16901/Wallabies-character-gave-Cheika-pride.aspx</a>
 
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"> Wallabies coach Michael Cheika says he never lost belief in his team through their determined World Cup final performance.
The Wallabies had cut the margin to just four points midway through the second half before a Dan Carter drop goal and a scrum penalty minutes later put the margin beyond a single score.
â€œI felt that 40 minutes was enough time. Even after they scored ( in the second half), I felt 30 minutes, 35 minutes was enough time to claw our way back into the contest and change the momentum of the game,â€ he said.
â€œWhich we did at 21-17, with I donâ€™t even know how long it was to go.
â€œAnd then even when it got seven points behind, you get a try there, you can take the game into extra time, youâ€™ve still got time to, so we were right back in the hunt in the second half.
Cheika said his sideâ€™s character, much-lauded through this tournament, showed through in the way they responded to the challenge.
â€œI thought we could have easily gone home then, we could have been happy, everyone had a good campaign and we couldâ€˜ve easily said, â€˜okay weâ€™re sweet,â€™,â€ he said.
â€œThat they didnâ€™t want to do that (give up) and they wanted to stay in the battle until the end (was pleasing), which I thought we did.
â€œThereâ€™s not much more I couldâ€™ve asked them to do and we came pretty close tonight.
â€œWe swung the momentum back our way, even though the first half didnâ€™t go our way and bounce of the ball here or there, a call here or there couldâ€™ve been a bit closer.â€
Cheika reiterated his pride in his side for its improvement each week, on and off the field, since he came on board last year.
â€œIâ€™ve been really pleased with the way weâ€™ve handled things,â€ he said.
â€œI think weâ€™ve been really honest about the way weâ€™ve done things both on and off the field.
â€œWeâ€™ve really enjoyed it and tried to improve over the whole tournament so we can improve our rugby as a whole.
â€œIt came pretty quick for us as a group but we tried to make the best of it where we (could).â€
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Cheika said the Wallabiesâ€™ focus on improvement would not waver after the World Cup final.
â€œYou just stay at it and keep trying to improve and keep testing yourself again,â€ he said.
â€œWeâ€™re lucky that we get to play them regularly in the Rugby Championship, so we can keep trying to improve.
â€œYouâ€™ve got to mark yourself against the best.
â€œTheyâ€™ve been number one for a while. I think weâ€™ve made good ground over the last 12 months in that area.
â€œWeâ€™ve got to keep growing.â€
Both Cheika and captain Stephen Moore acknowledged the significance of the support from Australian fans in London and back in Australia, thanking the public for their support of the campaign.
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Black Paua

Just watched replay, all AB tries were real crackers. NMS, Nonu and BB brilliant. Everyone contributed very well.

raznomore

One aspect that needs to be done away with is the post match interview questions. Just give the guys the mic and let them talk, especially the losing side. That silly cow they let have a mic is just there to turn the knife.

NTA

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One aspect that needs to be done away with is the post match interview questions. Just give the guys the mic and let them talk, especially the losing side. That silly cow they let have a mic is just there to turn the knife.
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She, and her male counterpart who did some of the other games, they can both jump in a rocket fired into the fucking sun. Fucking hide of them, even asking Robshaw and the Poms about their exit in the group stages. I'm all for laughing at Poms but the manner in which they asked the question was plain rude. 
 
Get. Fucked.

Knock On Wood

I was worried BB might get carded for punching the ball after his try

Donsteppa

Watch this again and again and again and again and again: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/yes-beauden-barrett-try-secures-third-world-cup-title-for-the-all-blacks'>https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/yes-beauden-barrett-try-secures-third-world-cup-title-for-the-all-blacks</a>

Lindommer

Well played, ABs, too good. As an Australian with a New Zealand grandmother part of me's pleased about the result, possibly my left leg... Pre-match I was absolutely stoked it was an ANZAC final, post-match I think both us can be proud of the quality and style of game we put on. Let's hope the iRB/WR listen to us SH hicks when the way rugby's played comes up for discussion. 
Once again, congratulations ABs.

Richie8-7

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Black Paua" data-cid="537610" data-time="1446330062">
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Score perhaps flattering in the end but it just goes to show how important playing to the final whistle is. 

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If it was flattering, it was to the Wallabies. But such things are irrelevant. All Blacks deserved the win, Wallabies deserve respect

NTA

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If it was flattering, it was to the Wallabies. 
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Where do you think that is the case?

taniwharugby

the score flattered us cos we get our name on the trophy, again. 
 
A win is a win is a win

Rancid Schnitzel

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He was just showing Richie the label that proves his boots are made from 100% recycled hemp and the tears of unemployed miners.</blockquote>
 
Jazz feet?

Crucial

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Rancid Schnitzel" data-cid="537706" data-time="1446337232">Jazz feet?</blockquote>
 
Yep. It was AUSLAN for "stop holding my leg"

Richie8-7

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="537700" data-time="1446336913">
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Where do you think that is the case? 
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Felt like we were on top from start to finish. It changed when a (correct) yellow card was given to B Smith. However, the match would have been well gone by that point if Kepu received one of his deserved 3 yellow cards and Pocock received his deserved red card. But whatever, 17 points ends up about right. Irrelevant really, whether it's 1 or 100.

Richie8-7

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Knock On Wood" data-cid="537674" data-time="1446335436">
I was worried BB might get carded for punching the ball after his try</blockquote>

taniwharugby

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Donsteppa" data-cid="537685" data-time="1446336043">
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Watch this again and again and again and again and again: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/yes-beauden-barrett-try-secures-third-world-cup-title-for-the-all-blacks'>https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/yes-beauden-barrett-try-secures-third-world-cup-title-for-the-all-blacks</a>
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Fuck he has serious gas! 
 
I have given Marshall ALOT of shit over the past year or 2, but thought he was great, his unbridled passion and exuberance captured things perfectly today.
 
On Nonu's try - Go boy, go!
on BB - Beauden Barret....Go Beauden!

voodoo

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="537594" data-time="1446329010">
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I have re-emerged to face Sunday, and there is a silly little grin on my face. I find myself walking around the house, giving little fist-bumps, and saying "you fucking beauty" under my breath. The kids are getting extra love, even if they are being annoying. I am at peace with the world.
 
What a test match!! I was nervous as fuck at kick-off, but what a start by us. Smacking the fuck out of them on defense, and then straight in to attack. Side to side stuff, middle of the field, back to the blind, constantly moving the point of attack. Our forward runners were brutal, and then Nonu was cutting them up. Some fantastic defense from Australia to hold us early. Then the "interesting" options started. The box kick in the 22, the grubber, the tap and go. Fuck!! get points!! We were dominating the game, but that doesn't mean much when the scoreboard doesn't move. That first try was a thing of beauty, great hands in tight spaces to set a guy in untouched, beautiful rugby. At half time I was feeling a bit better.
 
Aus started the 2nd half really well, they found some thrust, and Beale was running, then we get the ball back, SBW throws 2 offloads, and Nonu scores the best World Cup Final try of all time. And I made the mistake of relaxing. Aus get the ball, prove their start to the half as no fluke, and then fucking Ben Smith. Dumb as fuck. You knew they would score from that lineout. Then Genia and Beale played smart, and ran NMS around at the back. Great play to score the 2nd try, really good exploitation of the space at the back. FUCK!! 4 points! are you serious? We've bossed this game!
 
The Aussies definitely had the run at this point, but that's when leaders stood up, and boy did ours stand up. Dan with a monster kick for touch, then egging the boys on, Richie lifted, and the forwards went with him. It's like we stopped the game, took a breath, and took control again. Dan steps up, ridiculous drop goal, then 50m penalty, and it's 10 points. They get the ball back, but we sat back, gave them the ball, and whacked anyone who ran, beautiful. The last try was icing.
 
Elation!! off the couch! double fist pump!! celebratory glass of red (it was 4am) video calls from NZ, trying not to wake the kids. Watch presentations with silly grin.
 
To the Aussie fans, you should be proud of your boys. They were being out played, but the kept fronting, and kept fronting, and then suddenly the got a break, and they lifted a couple of levels. At the 65min mark they were balls deep in the game, and the boilover was on. You lost key players early which upset your plans, but nothing phased the team. Your coach and captain showed the perfect amount of grace and bitter disappointment in defeat, and didn't let that silly bitch goad them in to rash statements. An excellent campaign, and the building blocks of a very good team.
 
For us, the difference was the physicality of our forwards (and midfield), the lineout, and the strength of the scrum, which allowed us a lot of ball to play the game our way. Our field kicking was superior as well. Pretty much what we thought would happen at the start, but it's nice to see it pan out that way.
 
"everything is awesome!"
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All this. And especially the DC pumping the lads up part - I have been watching him play for more than a decade. and his persona has almost never deviated from that calm, placid state, sometimes punctuated with a sheepish grin when he gets a bit excited. And today, he finds the mongrel. Yelling at the troops, even yelling at the ball on his droppie, willing them on and it over the posts.

jegga

Stuff has Bonococks stamp up now, it's pretty hard to defend it by saying he was trying to free his leg .

LagerLout

OK so where can I watch the NZ coverage of the game? The whole thing? Fecking English commentary was wholly morbid by comparison!

The Silver Fern

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