Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..
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@majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
@booboo It's not an insult.
Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.
I don't think we're really arguing, but I am of the opinion h was farking good on D. So IMO it's hard to argue Jonny was better because he was "better" on D because in my opinion DC was just as good.
I have a soft spot for Wilkinson because of the chip and chase try v us in 2002, but ... He's just not quite DC.
And DC was as good (if not better) on D.
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@kiwimurph said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
The point is - just because you are a bigger hitter doesn't automatically make you a better defender.
Not arguing that.
Wilkinson is a legendary defender though, it's often mentioned about him. Absolutely nothing wrong with DC defence, it was superb.
@booboo said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
@majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
@booboo It's not an insult.
Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.
I don't think we're really arguing, but I am of the opinion h was farking good on D. So IMO it's hard to argue Jonny was better because he was "better" on D because in my opinion DC was just as good.
I have a soft spot for Wilkinson because of the chip and chase try v us in 2002, but ... He's just not quite DC.
And DC was as good (if not better) on D.
Just to be clear I'm not arguing for JW as the better player. DC the better player.
As a side note though, I do think saint Jonny was hugely underrated in NZ for a long time. It was only really when he did the 2007 RWC run that I think people started to believe that the ongoing NH plaudits for him actually had some real substance.
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@majorrage I always thought he was a gun held back by the style he was forced to play for England. Thought his running and passing game was always underrated.
No DC though.
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Porta was insanely gifted-or maybe he stood out to me more because I can't remember any other sign of flair in his Argies team. Some big hairy men though.
The battering ram and catapult team England method suited JW but it still seems to me England had a very specific way of playing that did not really show his versatility-while Carter could play with all sorts of tactics, including no tactics, and just running with the thing. Internationally, I seldom saw JW with that.
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So what positions are covered now? 10,12, 15 and ?
We need Richie to have a son too. Come on mate.
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@crazy-horse said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
So what positions are covered now? 10,12, 15 and ?
We need Richie to have a son too. Come on mate.
DC was a halfback at schoolboy level so 9.
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@nepia said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
Should that tweet also be added to the bogan names thread?
Although I do like that our best 10 ever has given the finger to his Cantabrian neighbours by naming one of his sons after Grant Fox.
I'm confused as to why he named another one after Penelope Cruz.
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@crucial said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
@nepia said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
Should that tweet also be added to the bogan names thread?
Although I do like that our best 10 ever has given the finger to his Cantabrian neighbours by naming one of his sons after Grant Fox.
I'm confused as to why he named another one after Penelope Cruz.
Pretty sure he named the latest one after me, but with the "cool edgy spelling" that is required nowadays.
I believe that brings my total of "kids named after me" to a total of 5. Maybe 6. -
@sparky said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:
Dan Carter to teach at Oxford University.
Will he be teaching physics?
"At the end of the day, objects travelling near the speed of me in my prime around the periphery of large English forwards will appear to undergo a peculiar skewing or rotation..."[with all due respect to Sir Roger Penrose...]
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@nostrildamus Always thought Anton Oliver with his big words would end up at Oxford. More surprising to see DC there.