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    @taniwharugby said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    @canefan I thought about that clip after reading your post immediately above.

    Still chokes me up even now πŸ₯ΊπŸ˜’😭

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    DC - absolute legend who has all the plaudits / awards to go with being such a great player.

    I wouldn't get too hung up about people saying he wasn't as good defensively as Jonny Wilkinson. There's a reason for that. He wasn't. Wilkinson was an extremely hard hitter who put his body on the line in every single tackle, and ultimately ended up paying the price for it.

    Great kicker, runner, strategist, playmaker & a superb defender.

    @booboo said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    A memory of the penalty was Kafer saying "Dan Carter will get this. He's just THAT sort of player."

    Exactly. Difference between the best and truly elite. Top 2 inches.

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    @majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    DC - absolute legend who has all the plaudits / awards to go with being such a great player.

    I wouldn't get too hung up about people saying he wasn't as good defensively as Jonny Wilkinson. There's a reason for that. He wasn't. Wilkinson was an extremely hard hitter who put his body on the line in every single tackle, and ultimately ended up paying the price for it.

    Great kicker, runner, strategist, playmaker & a superb defender.

    @booboo said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    A memory of the penalty was Kafer saying "Dan Carter will get this. He's just THAT sort of player."

    Exactly. Difference between the best and truly elite. Top 2 inches.

    Meh. Not upset but ...

    He may not have hit as hard Jonny,but he was excellent defensively.

    Saying he wasn't as good is just incorrect.

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    @booboo It's not an insult.

    Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.

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    Easily the most complete and best first five-eighth I've had the privilege to witness and that in no way should diminish the value other players brought their teams.

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    @majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    @booboo It's not an insult.

    Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.

    The point is - just because you are a bigger hitter doesn't automatically make you a better defender.

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    @majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    @booboo It's not an insult.

    Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.

    I don't think we're really arguing, but I am of the opinion h was farking good on D. So IMO it's hard to argue Jonny was better because he was "better" on D because in my opinion DC was just as good.

    I have a soft spot for Wilkinson because of the chip and chase try v us in 2002, but ... He's just not quite DC.

    And DC was as good (if not better) on D.

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    @kiwimurph said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    The point is - just because you are a bigger hitter doesn't automatically make you a better defender.

    Not arguing that.

    Wilkinson is a legendary defender though, it's often mentioned about him. Absolutely nothing wrong with DC defence, it was superb.

    @booboo said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    @majorrage said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    @booboo It's not an insult.

    Carter was a genuine rugby freak, but to say he was the best ever or at least on par/better at every single facet of his game as the other great first five of his era is a bit OTT.

    I don't think we're really arguing, but I am of the opinion h was farking good on D. So IMO it's hard to argue Jonny was better because he was "better" on D because in my opinion DC was just as good.

    I have a soft spot for Wilkinson because of the chip and chase try v us in 2002, but ... He's just not quite DC.

    And DC was as good (if not better) on D.

    Just to be clear I'm not arguing for JW as the better player. DC the better player.

    As a side note though, I do think saint Jonny was hugely underrated in NZ for a long time. It was only really when he did the 2007 RWC run that I think people started to believe that the ongoing NH plaudits for him actually had some real substance.

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    I hate predictive text

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    @majorrage I always thought he was a gun held back by the style he was forced to play for England. Thought his running and passing game was always underrated.

    No DC though.

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    Think he only just managed to edge Foxy on first class points β€” 4,292.

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    Porta was insanely gifted-or maybe he stood out to me more because I can't remember any other sign of flair in his Argies team. Some big hairy men though.

    The battering ram and catapult team England method suited JW but it still seems to me England had a very specific way of playing that did not really show his versatility-while Carter could play with all sorts of tactics, including no tactics, and just running with the thing. Internationally, I seldom saw JW with that.
    I also wonder if JW played for NZ if they would have selected him at 10 or at 12.

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    Son number 4 arrives safely for Dan and Honor Carter:

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    @sparky Imagine if they all turn out to have their parents' combined talent!

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    @stargazer Is DC trying to outdo Smiley Barrett?

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    @sparky Haha, maybe! Or they're just continuing to produce offspring until they have a girl!

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    So what positions are covered now? 10,12, 15 and ?

    We need Richie to have a son too. Come on mate.

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    @crazy-horse said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    So what positions are covered now? 10,12, 15 and ?

    We need Richie to have a son too. Come on mate.

    DC was a halfback at schoolboy level so 9.

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    Should that tweet also be added to the bogan names thread?

    Although I do like that our best 10 ever has given the finger to his Cantabrian neighbours by naming one of his sons after Grant Fox.

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    @nepia said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

    Should that tweet also be added to the bogan names thread?

    Although I do like that our best 10 ever has given the finger to his Cantabrian neighbours by naming one of his sons after Grant Fox.

    I'm confused as to why he named another one after Penelope Cruz.

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