All Blacks 2021

Mackerzzzz

Big savea fan but this is my team so far:

Hogman
Taylor
Laulala
Whitelock
Vaii
Robinson/Blackadder
Papalii
Sotutu
Smith
Moanga
Fianganuku
Havili
Lenert-Brown
Jordan
J Barrett
De Groot? (Tu'inukuafe doesn't offer enough)
Aumua
Tuangafasi
Big Bad Brodie (for the first game)
A Savea
Webber
DMac
Reece

A Ioane hasn't been good enough for me.

Canes4life

@mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

Mackerzzzz

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@mackerzzzz interesting that you have De Groot as the replacement hooker and Aumua as the replacement prop. 😁

16,17,18 doesn't mean anything. Could be no23. He is still a hooker

Bones

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

Past

Mackerzzzz

What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

The Groot
Aumua
The mighty Williams
Scott Barrett
Vaiiiiii
Robinson/ Blackadder
Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
Sotutu
Fakatava
Moanga
Clarke
J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
Lenert-Brown
Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
Jordan (could become cullen good)
A Ross?
S Vikena?
Tuangafasi?
Lord or Darry
Savea
Only other good young guy is Roe
DMac or Z Sullivan
Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

Bones

@mackerzzzz 🤮

Toddy

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

Starting loose forwards as a trio aren't abrasive enough for test footy imo. One of Ardie or Hoskins would need to drop out.

gt12

@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

The Groot

Aumua

The mighty Williams

Scott Barrett

Vaiiiiii

Robinson/ Blackadder

Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)

Sotutu

Fakatava

Moanga

Clarke

J Barrett (could become a very good 12)

Lenert-Brown

Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?

Jordan (could become cullen good)

A Ross?

S Vikena?

Tuangafasi?

Lord or Darry

Savea

Only other good young guy is Roe

DMac or Z Sullivan

Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

That’s as far as I got.

Chris

@gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

The Groot

Aumua

The mighty Williams

Scott Barrett

Vaiiiiii

Robinson/ Blackadder

Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)

Sotutu

Fakatava

Moanga

Clarke

J Barrett (could become a very good 12)

Lenert-Brown

Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?

Jordan (could become cullen good)

A Ross?

S Vikena?

Tuangafasi?

Lord or Darry

Savea

Only other good young guy is Roe

DMac or Z Sullivan

Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

Williams is a LH, Newell is the TH to watch.

That’s as far as I got.

Williams can play both sides he was originally a TH
Probably will get some game time at TH for the Crusaders next season with Michael A gone.

booboo

@pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

Jeez.

678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

Pick 3 ...

booboo

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

Que?

Havili 12
ALB 13

??

Bones

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

Que?

Havili 12
ALB 13

??

If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

booboo

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.

Bollocks. He was coming back from injury.

And "have".

booboo

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:
@tim said in All Blacks 2021:
Imagine being so fucking dumb that you select Frizzell, Savea, and Barrett, and a hundred other bums, ahead of Papalii and Ioane, and then not understand why England fucking destroy your garbage forward pack
Savea a bum at the last World Cup? This is laughable beyond comprehension. Ioane was lazy as fuck back in 2019, I wouldn’t of had him anywhere near the All Blacks.

Pretty silly of you not even mentioning Read, he was probably the forward that was slightly passed it and there was probably question marks about his selection. But Ardie? You’re just on the troll at this point.
Past

Have

booboo

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

Que?

Havili 12
ALB 13

??

If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

antipodean

@canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

@pukunui yeah Savea has to start in the 7 jersey, we need all the experience we can get. The 6 and 8 jersey are still up in the air at this point for me but I’ve liked what I’ve seen from Jacobsen so I hope they can fit him in.

Jacobsen 7. Savea and 8. Sotutu, with Papali’i on the bench is looking pretty good to me.

Sotutu is going to be busy carrying them for 50mins.

Bones

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@bones said in All Blacks 2021:

ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

Que?

Havili 12
ALB 13

??

If they don't select Havili I can't see any other option at 12. I wouldn't be surprised if PUJ gets selected though.

The guy who can't make the Hurricanes?

Sounds like a glowing endorsement to me.

pukunui

@booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

@pukunui said in All Blacks 2021:

Blackadder 7.Savea 8.Ioane might be combo that is worth looking at. Savea provides the experience with Cane out.

Not sure Ioane and Sotutu should be in the same trio together. Especially if they are with Savea. All a bit too similar.

One thing i have found interesting is that Ioane has dropped out of the conversation for 8 a bit. 18 months ago he was mainly seen as an 8 and not really an option at 6.
Similar to his brother not being considered at 11 anymore.

Jeez.

678 is so open. Love it we're so passionate about it though.

Savea, Papalii, Ioane, Frizell, Sotutu, Blackadder Grace, Robinson, Jacobsen ...

Not really finding massive fault in any of those guys ...

Pick 3 ...

Yeah a huge amount of quality options for once. The important part will be picking 3 that get the balance right.

sparky

@mackerzzzz Well, it's a revisionist interpretation.......

gt12

Jacobson did himself few favours with his play today.

I like the guy, but I'm not convinced he is the answer, although a few opportunities at 8 could be worthwhile.

Right now, I like the idea of Akira, Paps, and Blackadder with Robinson and Ardie off the bench, but that won't happen (I think Robinson may finally be the lock/6 we've been looking for though).

So, Akira, Ardie, Blackadder with Robinson and Paps on the bench has all positions covered with enough ball running and defence to slow some teams down.

It will get very very tricky when Cane comes back and when Grace gets a bit stronger with his run involvements (his workrate is good but he's miles behind Blackadder with ball in hand).

That's not even considering some wildcards like Flanders who I think may be a bigger and better version of Jacobson.

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All Blacks 2021