All Blacks 2021
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@billy-tell Him and that Chiefs fella Ross (?) both look like good prospects.
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@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
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@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
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@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader yup, I thought the quality level of the last one wasn't that great either. Don't rate Italy at all, but some variation would be awesome
I don’t rate Italy either, but a different opposition will bring a different preparation, different challenge and the fact that it’s the All Blacks and test match footy.
Purely a ruse to ensure you get to bring up your mates T Chief, etc...
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Lost track of squad numbers, and need, if any, for utility value.
Although Moody out, I feel we’ve got two good options at LH in Karl and Ross. Then there’s Hodgman, who was AB experience but a bit meh, and O’Neill who’s solid but injured. De Groot and Norris seem names for future.
TH concerns me, though. Nepo is international level scrummager and Ofa good against most teams. Lomax and Ta’avao are shaky at top level, although the latter is savvy and cheats to compensate.
For me the second best TH scrummager at the mo is Sione Mafileo, another product of Wesley. Held up well today against big Karl, and would be interesting to see what the AB team could do on his overall game.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Disagree. Italy were appalling bad in 6 Nations. The ABs should wrack up 80+ points again them. I would prefer a contest, thank you.
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@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Conceding defeat already
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
@act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:
@yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2021:
@sparky I'd rather have NvS than a dead rubber fame v Italy. Probably not a popular opinion
I think we’ve had just about enough NZ v NZ games, time for something else...
Disagree. Italy were appalling bad in 6 Nations. The ABs should wrack up 80+ points again them. I would prefer a contest, thank you.
At least it means something. Some ABs have made their debut vs Italy in the past and gone on to play more test footy. That has happened even when the result was not in doubt.
Nobody remembers “debuts” in Nth vs Sth...
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I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
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@nostrildamus said in Blues 2021:
I don't get the impression Foster et al. are sold on Laumape. And he lacks the versatility of his competitors like DH et alone a comparable kicking game.
NB I'm assuming JB has a lock on FB, (I mean, he was starting on the wing so the coaches love him, that they have enough wings (one or two of whom can FB, Jordan, Bridge?*) but that DH being a FB as well and being more consistently in form gives him the edge over NL.
And givn ALB is competing at 12 against DH/NL and at 13 against Ioane (I assume PUJ has not had enough game time to shine) they'd probably prefer DH/ALB to ALB/RI but RI has a chance on the bench as he also provides fairly handy wing cover.
*I wonder how highly they rate DMac at 15/10 cover.
**I'm not sure what is happening with RM/BB at 10 or BB at 15. I'd assume JB is ahead of his bro at 15.
apologies: perhaps this belongs in All Black not Blues thread..(oh, thanks mods!).I would like to see Havili/ALB MF lots of smarts ands extra kicking ability of Havili he creates space well for his outsides.
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@chris and you'd assume even with his preference of playing 15 over 12, a black 12 jersey would likely sway him
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris and you'd assume even with his preference of playing 15 over 12, a black 12 jersey would likely sway him
I am sure he will, he’s playing 12 for the Crusaders so he must be ok with playing in that position after sometime in the saddle.
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@chris I'm sure he'd take AB 12 if offered. Where do you think he ranks as an AB 15 contender? I'm guessing JB/BB, DMac, Jordan..DH? Then again perhaps they only see Jordan as a wing at this stage..
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@chris I'm sure he'd take AB 12 if offered. Where do you think he ranks as an AB 15 contender? I'm guessing JB/BB, DMac, Jordan..DH? Then again perhaps they only see Jordan as a wing at this stage..
rated Behind those players as a FB, 12 is his best bet now I think.
JB I think will be FB, Jordan on the wing is maybe how they will go now.
