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    #1967

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    One more start than George Whitelock.

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    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

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    #1969

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

    Possible skippers:

    • Scott Barrett
    • Paddy Tuipolutu
    • TJP
    • Coles
    • Taylor

    what a rogues gallery of decidedly average players (and Dane Coles)

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    #1970

    Fucking hell, I checked my understanding of my last post, and now I’m so depressed.

    Akira Ioane was in full beast mode in 2018, but who was preferred as the backup to Read?

    Luke fucking Whitelock.

    The coaches really jumped the shark in 2017/2018 and were just trying to hang on. I think they lost sight of leaving the team in a better place than it was when they got it.

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    #1971

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

    Possible skippers:

    • Scott Barrett
    • Paddy Tuipolutu
    • TJP
    • Coles
    • Taylor

    what a rogues gallery of decidedly average players (and Dane Coles)

    When the people’s choice of coach doesn’t run him into the ground, Taylor is very fucking useful.

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    #1972

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

    Possible skippers:

    • Scott Barrett
    • Paddy Tuipolutu
    • TJP
    • Coles
    • Taylor

    what a rogues gallery of decidedly average players (and Dane Coles)

    When the people’s choice of coach doesn’t run him into the ground, Taylor is very fucking useful.

    yeah, but we are in to a couple of years of "meh" in Black. So just maybe...

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    #1973

    B Barrett or Taylor for me, but I would not rule out Weber.

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    #1974

    @ARHS If Smith doesn't play then surely they start with TJP? That rules out Weber.

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    #1975

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    But he has legendary status….

    but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

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    #1976

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    But he has legendary status….

    but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

    He then captained the ABs in a test match in his last AB match which was his 7th test too many.

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    #1977

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    But he has legendary status….

    but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

    Sopoaga played well in Black!

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    #1978

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    Gee that is at least 3 Whitelocks to captain at Super or international level.

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  • NepiaN Online
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    #1979

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    Gee that is at least 3 Whitelocks to captain at Super or international level.

    I guess when you’re in your 20s and you look like you’re in your 50s coaches just naturally assume you’re mature and captain material.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1980

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    But he has legendary status….

    but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

    Sopoaga played well in Black!

    Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

    A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

    The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

    Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

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    #1981

    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    Luke Whitelock captained the All Blacks in his second game.

    But he has legendary status….

    but in all seriousness that was a game not a test match and an AB lineup that had AB stalwarts like Matt Duffie, Tim Perry, Dom Bird, Sopoaga, JTA!

    Sopoaga played well in Black!

    Amazing that he only started 2 tests.

    A magnificent debut at Ellis Park in 2015 being one.

    The other being probably his worst game in black - at 10 at Suncorp in a dead rubber Bledisloe in 2017.

    Obviously a lot of focus on the Boks and Argie but i'm interested how ABs handle the Perth test. ABs often falter in these dead rubber Bledisloe tests.

    It's basically a no win for us, but could offer up false hope to the Aussies if they win

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    #1982

    @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #1983

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

    did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

    i was pretty pissed and was balls deep in the vitriol. Cracking fun all round.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #1984

    @mariner4life I was on a bus from Gold Coast Airport to our hotel, so missed most of the shit (game and here)

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    #1985

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks 2021:

    @yeahtheboys said in All Blacks 2021:

    @act-crusader better captain than a few others named. Horses for courses 🤷‍♀️

    Weber has started 1 test, I can’t see how he’s even in the discussion for AB captain.

    All the other names have decent AB experience on top of their provincial/franchise captaincy.

    Tuipoluto, Scott Barrett, Beauden Barrett, Taylor, Savea, Retallick, Coles, Perenara - all played 40+ tests.

    I’d give it to Beauden Barrett. Guaranteed to start, highly likely to play 80, and has captained the ABs previously.

    BB, Retallick and Coles have all been part of the leadership group for a while. Happy with any of them in the circumstances.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #1986

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:

    @kiwimurph well the last perth one sucked....

    did birth one of the very best threads ever on the Fern though.

    Surpassing the 2010 Hong Kong test thread which itself had reached new levels of outrage.

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