All Blacks 2021
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AB forwards too small, not the right type. Really?
Starting pack weights v England 2019 WC per ultimaterugby.com
AB
Moody 120
Taylor 108
Laulala 116
Retallick 120
Whitelock 114
Barrett 105
Savea 102
Read 110
Total 895Bok
Mtawarira 118
Mbonambi 106
Malherbe 125
Etzebeth 117
De Jager 112
Kolisi 106
Du Toit 119
Vermeulen 116
Total 919Only real difference is in the loosies. If you think you have to be bigger, swap Ardie for Akira and you have parity. I suspect that in the next couple of hours the Wallabies will find the AB pack quite a handful
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
@big-bok think your weights are dodgy there (in your arguments favour). There's no way Barrett is only 105 and I'd be very surprised if Ardie is only just over the tonne.
Around 111kg, I believe.
Edit wrong on Whitelock as well 117kg not 114kg.
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I think with Dalton and A Ioane and despite Ardie supplanting the bigger Read, that the ABs are maybe the same now or a few kg heavier?
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Depth at TH is the biggest worry IMO. Will Ofa T be fit for the RC ? He and Laulala are both essential for the AB scrum (though not world beaters) as Lomax and Ta'avao are nowhere near international standard as far as scrummaging is concerned. I hope Moli can come back strongly and be included in the EOYT squad. And what about Owen Franks ? Will he play in the NPC ? He is not that old.
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'Progressing well': All Blacks captain Sam Cane gives injury update
Sam Cane has indicated he may be back playing by the time the All Blacks embark on their end-of-year tour of the United States and Europe.
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@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:
'Progressing well': All Blacks captain Sam Cane gives injury update
Sam Cane has indicated he may be back playing by the time the All Blacks embark on their end-of-year tour of the United States and Europe.
If he can get back for a training run vs the USA that would be great, Wales will also be a bit under strength as it is outside the test window - but only a bit. Italy also another good warm up for him
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so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?
Not in the squad for RC, he’ll have to prove hiself at NPC minimum before called back. Maybe for NH tour, could ease in vs USA and Italy
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@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:
@machpants it is beginning to look more of a competition at wing for Clarke isn't it? A few months ago winger spots seemed much more open..
He would make a great bench option instead of Jordie/Dmac in the 23 jersey.
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Nah, Clarke's form was so bad he shouldn't have made the ABs at all let alone be in the starting Blues 15.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
so does Clarke come back in at any point? Must be out of iso shortly?
Caleb Clarke was poor for the Blues at the start of the season. Needs to prove form and fitness through the NPC before he can be considered for the ABs again.
