All Blacks 2021
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@taniwharugby Yup, whether people like Akira or not, the guy is an enforcer with that extra bit of power to his game both on attack and defence. I'd also have Blackadder and Grace ahead of Frizell at test level. Grace is no number 8 from what I've seen but the potential is there as a 6 and both have a harder edge to their games than Frizell which is a must at test level (hopefully people are starting to realise this).
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I’m a frizzel fan but I think akira proved last season he deserves a few games on the trot so we can see how good he can be once really settled
Frizzel in at squad to keep the pressure on
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@kiwiwomble Yeah don't get me wrong, Frizell is ok, but don't think that he's good enough to start at test level. Good enough to be around the squad.
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@african-monkey agreed, ive conceded he hadn’t stepped up in the black jersey like akira has shown he might
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@mn5
When you put it that way...Still don't think they will chuck out an experimental side when they need their first choice players to play together too. If they can blood some players then I'm all for it but I don't think they learn a whole lot with a team filled with newbies even if they win comfortably.
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@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
Line up vs Italy: (If they first up)
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Joe Moody
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Codie Taylor
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Nepo Laulala
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Scott Barrett
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Sam Whitelock (c)
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Shannon Frizzell
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Dalton Papalii
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Ardie Savea
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Aaron Smith (mabie captan?)
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Richie Mo'unga
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Caleb Clarke
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Jack Goodhue
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Anton Lenert-Brown
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Will Jordan
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Jordie Barrett
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Alex Hogman
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Afaso Aumua
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Tyrell Lomax
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Patrick Tuipulotu
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Akira Ioane
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Brad Webber
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Damian McKenzie
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Leicester Fainga'anuku
If Italy are first up the All Blacks will play close to their strongest side.
I for one would like to commend the much maligned Super rugby coaches for their ability to turn players that not 8 months ago weren't good test players in to good test players.
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@bones said in All Blacks 2021:
Yeah can't say I see them selecting a squad with zero crusaders loosies.
Hunt is a large no.
Who would you bring in then.
And who for
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2021:
There are really very few players from outside last year's All Blacks squad putting their hand up and looking ready for selecting at international level.
Yeah other than Lester Fianganuku and Folau fakatava would have been
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So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?
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@african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:
So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?
not really, most consistent probably Hall although he is 29, so not really looking forward?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2021:
@african-monkey said in All Blacks 2021:
So who gets the 3rd halfback spot with Perenara away and Fakatava injured? Does anyone deserve it?
not really, most consistent probably Hall although he is 29, so not really looking forward?
And Drummond was preferred by the AB coaches previously. It will be hard for the likes of Nock and TTT to push their case if they either aren't playing regularly, or getting so few minutes of gametime for their SR teams.
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@african-monkey TTT
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Isn't Perenara back for ABs like Beaudie?
Not vs italy mid season
I think he is for rugby championship tho
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@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2021:
Isn't Perenara back for ABs like Beaudie?
Not vs italy mid season
I think he is for rugby championship tho
In fact I'm not sure either will be available vs italy
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@mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:
What I think the squad should be:
Props: Nepo Laulala, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi,
Joe Moody, Alex Hogman, Tyrell Lomax, ??Hooker: Dane Coles, Codie Taylor, Afaso Aumua
Lock: Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock(c), Patrick Tuipulotu, Taupo Vaa'i
Flanker: Ardie Savea, Shannon Frizzell, Hoskins Sotutu, Akria Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Tom Robinson
Scrum Half: Aaron Smith, Brad Webber,
Finlay Christie??Fly Half: Richie Mo'unga,
Josh Ioane, Mitch HuntOtere BlackCentre:
Jack Goodhue, Anton Lenert-Brown, Rieko Ioane,Ngani Laumape, Havili/Tupaea/FaianeWing / Fullbacks: Caleb Clarke,
Sevu Reece, Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Damian McKenzie, Leicester Fainga'anuku, George BridgeHave adjusted for injuries and opinion.
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They might not need such a large squad with the 3 home tests against Fiji and Italy. That could be expanded for the RC.
If Moody is out long-term then Bower probably comes into the frame as he was a replacement player last year. Other options could include Ross and Johnstone. de Groot looks handy for a young LH. Moli if he gets back to playing soon.
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Flanker: Ardie Savea, Shannon Frizzell, Hoskins Sotutu, Akria Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Tom Robinson
6: 2
6/8: 1
7: 1
7/8: 1
8: 1So 3 6s, 2 7s and 3 eights.
Think I would prefer another 7 option instead of Robinson. Could be time for Boshier to come back and pick up from pre-injury form,