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    @junior I'm wondering how many scrum hits and collapses weren't ideal, too.

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    'My decisions were my decisions, I was a lunatic on a rugby pitch' - Lewis Moody won't sue

    'My decisions were my decisions, I was a lunatic on a rugby pitch' - Lewis Moody won't sue

    Lewis Moody has sympathy for his ex-teammate Steve Thompson, but will not consider litigation without proof of negligence.

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    @Bones said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    'My decisions were my decisions, I was a lunatic on a rugby pitch' - Lewis Moody won't sue

    'My decisions were my decisions, I was a lunatic on a rugby pitch' - Lewis Moody won't sue

    Lewis Moody has sympathy for his ex-teammate Steve Thompson, but will not consider litigation without proof of negligence.

    Like him even more

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    @MiketheSnow My favourite England player of that era. Brilliant to watch and completely dedicated.

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    It's strange seeing Moody in a Bath jersey instead of Leicester.

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    I wonder how fool proof the current checks are?

    I recall reading an article a few years back where Stephen Kara (Blues Dr at the time) walked through the HIA protocols, on the day and the days following an impact, can only assume (hope) they are improving these all the time?

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    This is getting big….undeniable. Is it just part of life? A game we love but big part of decline in players.

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    @kev yeah next ten years or so will be very interesting.

    I mean, no contact before 14, yet, I am firmly in the camp that the younger (and smaller) they are to teach them to tackle properly, will minimise serious tackle (not head) injuries, but minimising doesnt eliminate.

    Obviously this being about head injuries, if people cant tackle properly, it will see more head injuries...

    I mean some 50kg U14 kid going out in his first game of tackle needing to take down a 100kg kid running flat out at him having never tackled before?

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    @taniwharugby said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @kev yeah next ten years or so will be very interesting.

    I mean, no contact before 14, yet, I am firmly in the camp that the younger they are to teach them to tackle properly, will minimise serious tackle (not head) injuries, but minimising doesnt eliminate.

    Obviously this being about head injuries, if people cant tackle properly, it will see more head injuries...

    I mean some 50kg U14 kid going out in his first game of tackle needing to take down a 100kg kid running flat out at him having never tackled before?

    Big fan of touch rugby, weight restricted rugby, technique coaching and the current crackdown. Players have to get lower, get their heads to the side. Tackling player must keep their head away from player being tackled. Those front on tackles where two defenders converge and take each other out with friendly fire is difficult….

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    @kev said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    Those front on tackles where two defenders converge and take each other out with friendly fire is difficult….

    Those freak the shit outta me! I find myself looking away on the replay. I hope they look worse than they might actually be.

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    @siam said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @kev said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    Those front on tackles where two defenders converge and take each other out with friendly fire is difficult….

    Those freak the shit outta me! I find myself looking away on the replay. I hope they look worse than they might actually be.

    Or when teammates get a bit over zealous with their celebrations.

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    Any tackle above the chest has to be red card. No exceptions. No mitigation. Players will soon get the idea and tackle lower.

    Otherwise I can't see the game surviving another ten years.

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    I’m taking it everyone watched that on Sunday it was very interesting, it’s my sons first year of tackle U8’s and I’ve stressed to them multiple time as a coach that if they feel any sort of a headache or just don’t feel flash come off I’ve had to pull one particular kid who has a bit of a Sam Tuitupou mentality of charge in there head first.

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    @mikey07 said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    I’m taking it everyone watched that on Sunday it was very interesting, it’s my sons first year of tackle U8’s and I’ve stressed to them multiple time as a coach that if they feel any sort of a headache or just don’t feel flash come off I’ve had to pull one particular kid who has a bit of a Sam Tuitupou mentality of charge in there head first.

    Think this is key. Coaches getting kids to have good habits from the beginning. Tackling in the right way and looking after themselves.

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    @sparky We absolutely drill it in to the kids about head placement in the tackle and body position, and practice practice and practice at training.

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    @siam said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @kev said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    Those front on tackles where two defenders converge and take each other out with friendly fire is difficult….

    Those freak the shit outta me! I find myself looking away on the replay. I hope they look worse than they might actually be.

    my last decent head knock was that. Was low, hit the guy full tilt around the hips, head went around the back nicely out of the way...

    and my team mate coming form the other side did exactly the same thing. bang!! 8 stitches in my temple.

    i am still of the opinion that, the bet thing rugby can do, rather than being out of control strict on all incidental head contact (in a game of large men throwing themselves at each other at full force for extended periods of time) is to be far more strict on concussion protocols. Longer stand downs, regular checks. We've got rid of most of the foul play, now protect players from themselves.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @siam said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @kev said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    Those front on tackles where two defenders converge and take each other out with friendly fire is difficult….

    Those freak the shit outta me! I find myself looking away on the replay. I hope they look worse than they might actually be.

    my last decent head knock was that. Was low, hit the guy full tilt around the hips, head went around the back nicely out of the way...

    and my team mate coming form the other side did exactly the same thing. bang!! 8 stitches in my temple.

    i am still of the opinion that, the bet thing rugby can do, rather than being out of control strict on all incidental head contact (in a game of large men throwing themselves at each other at full force for extended periods of time) is to be far more strict on concussion protocols. Longer stand downs, regular checks. We've got rid of most of the foul play, now protect players from themselves.

    100% this. People seem to forget what a crazy game rugby is. No way would it be allowed if invented these days. I mean they mandate the use of mouthguards because there’s a good chance of you losing teeth if you don’t have one. Everyone here who played for any length of time can probably talk of at least one serious injury and you’re probably in the minority if you go an entire career without being concussed or suffering a nasty knock to the head. Everyone who plays it must surely be aware of the potential consequences. Shit, I stopped playing in my mid 20s because I didn’t want to get injured. I won’t let my son play unless he’s serious and focussed enough when on the field. I’ve been playing in or watching more than one game that was abandoned because some poor prick had a suspected spinal injury. You have to sometimes wonder whether some people have suddenly come to the realisation of what rugby actually involves. It’s a ridiculous, brutal and potentially very dangerous game regardless of how much they try to sanitise it.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    you’re probably in the minority if you go an entire career without being concussed or suffering a nasty knock to the head.

    Me!

    My only one was from racing BMX with a big old helmet not stopping my concussion.

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    @taniwharugby said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in Rugby Brain Injuries:

    you’re probably in the minority if you go an entire career without being concussed or suffering a nasty knock to the head.

    Me!

    My only one was from racing BMX with a big old helmet not stopping my concussion.

    try sticking your head over a ruck once in a while....

    i played my whole life right up until my mid-30s. Then i coached. I loved everything about it. I still miss it (coaching juniors is about as much involvement as i have)

    but

    My eldest tried it and didn't like it. My youngest still plays now, but it's U10s/12s. if he decided to give it away i wouldn't try to change his mind. It's enormously fun to play, but the toll it takes on the body is insane.

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    @mariner4life fuck you

    I played alot at 9 (but was a loosie wearing 9) and then 6 in senior rugby.

    I played up to about 30, dropped a few seasons, played a few more and now just play golden oldies, LOVE IT!

    TR Jnr is missing it, the coach of the U16s asked him if he was gonna come along to trainings on Saturday, so we will see how that pans out, in his mind he is still smaller than these guys, even though he isnt.

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