2020 Māori All Blacks
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@Gunner said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
That's a bloody good Pacifica team they've put together!!!
It's a wonder that they don't also pick a 'NZ European' or 'safe skinny white boy' team to give the Maori All Blacks another game.... probably don't want to risk being seen as racist though huh?
I'd like to see a Non Maori/PI team to complete as well - I'm not sure why it would be seen as anymore "racist" than the current teams. Hell, they could just call it a NZ Baabaas team?
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@Higgins said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
So there it is TBN does have some NZ Maori heritage if my mate is to be believed.
think they still need to be able to prove thier Whakapapa though, Ranger's whanau had claimed Maori heritage but I believe they couldnt prove it, making him ineligible.
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@taniwharugby said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
@Higgins said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
So there it is TBN does have some NZ Maori heritage if my mate is to be believed.
think they still need to be able to prove thier Whakapapa though, Ranger's whanau had claimed Maori heritage but I believe they couldnt prove it, making him ineligible.
If they know who the great great grandfather is then it should be pretty easy to prove.
Was Ranger's issue that they don't know his real parentage?
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@Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
Ranger's issue that they don't know his real parentage?
no idea, was years back, just remember reading that it was all go but then they couldnt prove his Whakapapa.
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@Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
@Gunner said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:
That's a bloody good Pacifica team they've put together!!!
It's a wonder that they don't also pick a 'NZ European' or 'safe skinny white boy' team to give the Maori All Blacks another game.... probably don't want to risk being seen as racist though huh?
I'd like to see a Non Maori/PI team to complete as well - I'm not sure why it would be seen as anymore "racist" than the current teams. Hell, they could just call it a NZ Baabaas team?
My comment about being racist was a bit tongue in cheek
But seriously though, why not?
Who would make that team?
Contenders that I can quickly think of:- ????? Whoppa
- Coltman/Olsen
- ????? The long haired Otago prop
- Goodhue/Dickson
- Pierce
- Robinson
- Hunt/Boshier
- Matich
- Christie/Roe
- Smith/Gatland
- Gregory
- Collins
- Hyland
I'll be missing some obvious choices, as I say that was very quickly off the top of my head (and probably biased towards Northland)
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The Māori All Blacks squad is (with Province, Super Rugby Club, and Iwi):
*asterisk denotes new caps
Props
Josh Hohneck, Otago, Ngāti Manuhiri/Ngāti Whātua
Pouri Rakete-Stones, Hawkes Bay/Hurricanes, Ngāpuhi
Marcel Renata, Auckland/Blues, Ngāti Whānaunga/Ngāi Takoto
*Tamaiti Williams, Canterbury, NgāpuhiHookers
Ash Dixon (c), Hawkes Bay/Highlanders, Ngāti Tahinga
*Kurt Eklund, Bay of Plenty/Blues, NgāpuhiLocks
*Manaaki Selby-Rickit, Southland/Highlanders, Ngāti Raukawa
Isaia Walker-Leawere, Hawkes Bay/Hurricanes, Ngāti PorouLoose Forwards
Billy Harmon, Canterbury/Crusaders, Ngāi Tahu
Reed Prinsep, Canterbury/Hurricanes, Te Rārawa
Liam Messam, Waikato, Ngāi Tuhoe
Whetukamokamo Douglas, Canterbury/Crusaders, Ngāti Porou/Ngāti Whakaue
*Ethan Roots, North Harbour/Crusaders, Ngāti KahungunuHalf Backs
Bryn Hall, North Harbour/Crusaders, Ngāti Ranginui
Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, Bay of Plenty/Chiefs, Ngāti PikiaoFirst five-eighths
Otere Black, Bay of Plenty/Blues, Ngāi Tuhoe/Te Whānau ā Apanui/Ngāti Tūwharetoa
Fletcher Smith, Waikato/Hurricanes, Ngāti KahungunuMidfield
*Billy Proctor, Wellington/Hurricanes, Ngai Te Rangi/Ngāpuhi
*Rameka Poihipi, Canterbury, Ngāti Whakaue
*Quinn Tupaea, Waikato/Chiefs, Waikato/TainuiOutside Backs
Sean Wainui, Taranaki/Chiefs, Ngāi Tuhoe/Te Āitanga a Māhaki/Ngā Arikikaiputahi/Ngāti Porou
Shaun Stevenson, North Harbour/Chiefs, Ngāpuhi
Jonah Lowe, Hawkes Bay/Hurricanes, Ngāti Pikiao
*Kaleb Trask, Bay of Plenty/Chiefs, Ngāpuhi
Head Coach: Clayton, McMillan, Ngāi Te Rangi/Ngāi Tamawhariua/Te Rangaihouhiri
Assistant Coaches: Roger Randle, Ngāti Awa; Tony Brown (Ngāpuhi)https://www.allblacks.com/news/maori-all-blacks-squad-announced-to-play-moana-pasifika-in-hamilton/
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@Stargazer was about to post the same. And they are locals to me. Zarn Sullivan Mewett and Karpik were surprise omissions for me. Younger Roots may have gone close too.
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@ARHS I think Karpik lost his spot to Harmon, who had a very good Mitre 10 Cup season. I think both had a good chance, but only need one 7.
Not surprised Mewett missed out, considering the quality of the players they've picked at lock, unless you count Selby-Ricket's criminal conviction against him (I've been wondering about that).
I would have left Proctor out of the squad, named Wainui as a midfielder and named Zarn Sullivan, but he's still very green, so may have to wait.
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@Stargazer You did great research work on this up front! Am pleased with the selections. Roots covers lock. Trask keeps Sullivan out and toss between Harmon and Karpik. Might be fun to revisit that European XV now. Pretty thin on backs left over. I get Drummond Cameron Gregory Collins McKay Goosen and Hunt. Little beyond that outside 9s. But plenty of forward talent without a big match at season end. Strange Dunshea Boshier Robinson Jacobsen Hunt all unlucky there.
