Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18
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@Yeahtheboys Bryn Hall said recently that the Crusaders had a game plan in this year's game v Blues to avoid kicking to Caleb Clarke because he is so good under the high ball.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@DMX It's funny how one week Foster is singlehandedly leading the downfall of NZ rugby and the next all is rosy.
I think the ABs weaknesses remain - i thought the Wallabies were at least several notches below where they were the week before and still managed to keep the losing margin to our lowest in 10 years at Eden Park.
As good as he is, I can't see Caleb Clarke running straight over the top of three Saffa or English forwards. That was a uniquely Australian performance.
You haven't been here long have you?
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im going to ask a stupid question,
there was a ruck in the second half, aussie took it in, we tried to counter, pile of bodies with a halfback on either side, ball sitting on top dead centre...both half backs could reach it but when TJP went to pick it up the ref said no....if we have driven back and can now reach the ball...isn't is fair game?...i assume not
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
im going to ask a stupid question,
there was a ruck in the second half, aussie took it in, we tried to counter, pile of bodies with a halfback on either side, ball sitting on top dead centre...both half backs could reach it but when TJP went to pick it up the ref said no....if we have driven back and can now reach the ball...isn't is fair game?...i assume not
Mmm.
Some of the rucks where we had countered blowing them back off the ball defied logic that the Wobs still won possession.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
im going to ask a stupid question,
there was a ruck in the second half, aussie took it in, we tried to counter, pile of bodies with a halfback on either side, ball sitting on top dead centre...both half backs could reach it but when TJP went to pick it up the ref said no....if we have driven back and can now reach the ball...isn't is fair game?...i assume not
It is, but Angus is special. He should've let it go because for it to be a ruck the ball needs to be on the ground. So instead he's determined that the defending team needs to drive over the ball which would make sense if it was on the ground.
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@Derpus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
As good as he is, I can't see Caleb Clarke running straight over the top of three Saffa or English forwards. That was a uniquely Australian performance.
I can't see a Saffer or English box kick into the midfield where things become rapidly shit.
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Players aimlessly hoofing the ball downfield is what makes rugby exciting to watch.
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Players aimlessly hoofing the ball downfield is what makes rugby exciting to watch.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Players aimlessly hoofing the ball downfield is what makes rugby exciting to watch.
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
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Some of the ruck rulings leave you scratching your head. I think the ruck ruling was basically if you got hands on the ball quickly, everything was fine. But god knows - Hooper worked magic out there at times, but it seemed to be ruled inconsistently. IT was noticeable to me (after a couple of drinks anyway) that ABs seemed slightly slower getting over the ball, but did well in cleanouts when we did get there. If hands went to ball, it didn't seem to matter if you were on or off feet.
In modern rugby, you can get tackled hard, bounce off the ground after the impact, but concede a penalty for not releasing before you've actually stopped moving vertically is ... interesting. Still, that's the modern game, we need to be good at it.
Seems you get good reward for body position in the tackle - getting the ball well back on your side prevents turnovers
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@Frank said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Ardie does the best dramatic flailing arm gestures right after he tackles someone.
That combined with Kieran Read and his whinging at the ref antics made it very dangerous to stand near either of them back in 2019.
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@MN5 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Frank said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Ardie does the best dramatic flailing arm gestures right after he tackles someone.
That combined with Kieran Read and his whinging at the ref antics made it very dangerous to stand near either of them back in 2019.
he was at it again for counties against otago on the weekend, even got a ball throw in frustration
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
im going to ask a stupid question,
there was a ruck in the second half, aussie took it in, we tried to counter, pile of bodies with a halfback on either side, ball sitting on top dead centre...both half backs could reach it but when TJP went to pick it up the ref said no....if we have driven back and can now reach the ball...isn't is fair game?...i assume not
Back in the day if the ball wasn’t physically on the deck and just lying on top of a player that has no protection then it was seen as fair game to take.
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Caleb Clarke rightfully getting lots of plaudits, but I was especially pleased with Hodgman.
I was a bit concerned about his early entry, but he scrummed well and was active around the park. ESPN says 8 tackles and no misses.
With all due respect to Big Karl, he would have needed 8 guys to run into him to match that.
His stats say that he's 1.96 metres tall. Is that correct? If so, he needs to watch out - that's a tall lock to John Plumtree!
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
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@Chris-B I was concerned about Hodgman too. I remember Hodgman being destroyed by Taniela Tupou a couple of years ago in a SR game and feared that he would not be able to handle him at scrum time, but he ended up getting the upper hand which was a pleasant surprise. Feek seems to be doing a very good job with our scrum.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
my guess was, some of those infield box kicks were deliberate so that the ball was away from those 2 blockers teh Wallabies have used to effectively to break up the kick chase.
that might be wishful thinking though.
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Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
my guess was, some of those infield box kicks were deliberate so that the ball was away from those 2 blockers teh Wallabies have used to effectively to break up the kick chase.
that might be wishful thinking though.
I think more just backing the AB line defence to do the job - which it didn't a few times, and the scramble defence to clean up the rest - which it did more often than not.
