Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Players aimlessly hoofing the ball downfield is what makes rugby exciting to watch.
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
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Some of the ruck rulings leave you scratching your head. I think the ruck ruling was basically if you got hands on the ball quickly, everything was fine. But god knows - Hooper worked magic out there at times, but it seemed to be ruled inconsistently. IT was noticeable to me (after a couple of drinks anyway) that ABs seemed slightly slower getting over the ball, but did well in cleanouts when we did get there. If hands went to ball, it didn't seem to matter if you were on or off feet.
In modern rugby, you can get tackled hard, bounce off the ground after the impact, but concede a penalty for not releasing before you've actually stopped moving vertically is ... interesting. Still, that's the modern game, we need to be good at it.
Seems you get good reward for body position in the tackle - getting the ball well back on your side prevents turnovers
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@Frank said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Ardie does the best dramatic flailing arm gestures right after he tackles someone.
That combined with Kieran Read and his whinging at the ref antics made it very dangerous to stand near either of them back in 2019.
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@MN5 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Frank said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Ardie does the best dramatic flailing arm gestures right after he tackles someone.
That combined with Kieran Read and his whinging at the ref antics made it very dangerous to stand near either of them back in 2019.
he was at it again for counties against otago on the weekend, even got a ball throw in frustration
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
im going to ask a stupid question,
there was a ruck in the second half, aussie took it in, we tried to counter, pile of bodies with a halfback on either side, ball sitting on top dead centre...both half backs could reach it but when TJP went to pick it up the ref said no....if we have driven back and can now reach the ball...isn't is fair game?...i assume not
Back in the day if the ball wasn’t physically on the deck and just lying on top of a player that has no protection then it was seen as fair game to take.
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Caleb Clarke rightfully getting lots of plaudits, but I was especially pleased with Hodgman.
I was a bit concerned about his early entry, but he scrummed well and was active around the park. ESPN says 8 tackles and no misses.
With all due respect to Big Karl, he would have needed 8 guys to run into him to match that.
His stats say that he's 1.96 metres tall. Is that correct? If so, he needs to watch out - that's a tall lock to John Plumtree!
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@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
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@Chris-B I was concerned about Hodgman too. I remember Hodgman being destroyed by Taniela Tupou a couple of years ago in a SR game and feared that he would not be able to handle him at scrum time, but he ended up getting the upper hand which was a pleasant surprise. Feek seems to be doing a very good job with our scrum.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
my guess was, some of those infield box kicks were deliberate so that the ball was away from those 2 blockers teh Wallabies have used to effectively to break up the kick chase.
that might be wishful thinking though.
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Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
my guess was, some of those infield box kicks were deliberate so that the ball was away from those 2 blockers teh Wallabies have used to effectively to break up the kick chase.
that might be wishful thinking though.
I think more just backing the AB line defence to do the job - which it didn't a few times, and the scramble defence to clean up the rest - which it did more often than not.
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@Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
Did Rayasi have a SR contract this year, Steven? I agree, he's been outstanding. Really enjoy watching you guys on the Driving Maul btw.
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@Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
I've not seen much of either, but how are their kicking boots? Just wondering about territorial game as not everything is about running it back.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
That would be you if other teams aimlessly kicked to yours.
Actually the ABs did a couple of times, but we don't have Caleb Clarke.
Teach Koroibete to catch, or Tupou to hold onto the ball...
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Chris-B I was concerned about Hodgman too. I remember Hodgman being destroyed by Taniela Tupou a couple of years ago in a SR game and feared that he would not be able to handle him at scrum time, but he ended up getting the upper hand which was a pleasant surprise. Feek seems to be doing a very good job with our scrum.
Ben Afeaki has done a really nice job with the Blues scrum too. Hodgman's scrum improvement this year in Super was noteworthy.
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@akan004 said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
Did Rayasi have a SR contract this year, Steven? I agree, he's been outstanding. Really enjoy watching you guys on the Driving Maul btw.
Rayasi has/had a Hurricanes contract for 2020-2021, but is also part of the All Blacks 7s.
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@Nepia Yeah - he's a worse Kyle Sinckler.
People bang on about his running game but for me his best attribute at SR level was his scrummaging. He can single-handedly demolish a scrum.
He doesn't seem to be able to translate that to test level. I prefer 7A's at test.
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Steven-Harris said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Can you imagine Caleb Clark and Salesi Rayasi on the wings for the All Blacks ..?, that would be a handful for any defence , with Wil Jordon or BB at the back, that would terrorise most backlines in the world ..in my opinion Rayasi has been superb in the Mitre 10 cup.
I've not seen much of either, but how are their kicking boots? Just wondering about territorial game as not everything is about running it back.
Rayasi has a strong left foot as he has played a bit at fullback. One of them would have to switch to the right wing.
