Hawke's Bay v Canterbury
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We know what the rule, jesus. That was forward out of the hands.
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@mariner4life I thought the rule was pretty clear, but @Stargazer doesn't seem to agree.
Looked very very flat ... Gregan and Genia level flat
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Had a rewatch this morning over breakfast. Those idiot maul calls still making me fume a bit.
Hopefully the Canes coach was watching Flanders in this match, he's a beast when you give him a decent amount of rugby. The favoured son at the Canes, Prinsep was invisible the first 60 minutes.
I think Fakatava's game was was somewhere a bit in between the good that some are giving it and the bad others are. His decision making was off yesterday, especially compared with last year. You'd think being down and learning from Smith would help in that regard, but it's gotten worse ... maybe that hair dye is leaking into his brain. His little kicks with attacking ball needs to be shelved, but I think he needs to start again to keep the Hasting Boys 8-12 combo.
Dixon seems to get better with age, pity it appears to late for an AB call up. Parsons did the business too, glad he actually stayed this year.
Lowe had a good game even though he really doesn't get ball in space too often.
It's quite handy having Evans come on as a replacement. Stacking our bench with our ex All Black. ILW coming on and smashing everything certainly helped too.
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He threw it forward.
Its cool, they got away with one. I'm of the view rugby codes shouldn't be viewed under a microscope and frame by frame anyway
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@Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?
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@mariner4life said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:
He threw it forward.
Its cool, they got away with one. I'm of the view rugby codes shouldn't be viewed under a microscope and frame by frame anyway
Agree on both counts, which is why I hadn't examined it until it was mentioned. Then, frame by frame, its a forward pass. But in real time, looks ok. I think a factor which takes away from the 'it's allowed to drift forward' argument is that it was a relatively short pass.
When I played, we were taught to pass backwards. Then any forward momentum drift would result in a flat pass. These days it seems flat passes are the teaching and surprise surprise, they often float forward. I don't know why this needs to be justified.
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I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.
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@shark have been plenty of those short balls this season have looked forward but are let go without even a second look, especially when a number have resulted in a try and they could have had a look, but didnt...
maybe the refs were admiring the sweeping movements too much to worry about what thier job was
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@Stargazer could do a lot worse. Wouldn't say no to him coming to the blues tbh (obviously it won't happen).
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@Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:
@Nepia It's funny how Ozich has swapped Mikaele-Tu'u and Flanders, compared to where they played at SR level. I definitely think that 8 is the best position for both, but for some reason he prefers Flanders at the back of the scrum. Not sure why, but it may have to do with that Hastings Boys' 8 - 12 combo you're talking about? I'm not sure it's good for Mikaele-Tu'u, but it's definitely good for Flanders to get all this game time at 8. It will be interesting to see what the line-up will be, next week. Will Evans be preferred at 8, or does he stay on the bench? Or will they move him to 7, with O'Connor moving to the bench?
I haven't in the past been a fan of Evans at 7 but it's the best way to get all three on at the same time. What's going in HB at the moment that we're pumping out 8s - including Hugh Renton who's getting starts for @Chris-B's Invitational Money Bags XV.
@Higgins said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:
I was extremely magnanimous in victory last night, congratulating every Canterbury supporter in the clubrooms on their well deserved bonus point. Well not quite all as one turned out to confess later on that he was born in Hastings. That detail did not stop him demonstrating total support to Canterbury throughout. Thought seriously about aiming incorrectly when running into him in the urinal! The hangover is improving.
I've been pretty subdued too, but @shark's carry on in this thread is making me reach for my list of dodgy ref decisions and illegal play by Canterbury I compiled on my rewatch this morning.
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@Chris-B said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:
@Nepia Doubtless a legacy of the teachings of Mike Coman!
Damn, we must have had terrible stocks back then for Coman to get regular gametime - he'd be holding tackle bags at practice in todays team. Anyway, we're repaying the favour with Renton.
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@cgrant said in Hawke's Bay v Canterbury:
Parsons has been outstanding. It's incredible he did not get a contract for the SR while teams like the Canes or the Chiefs had to field undersized and inexperienced locks.
I'm paying a lot more attention to him this season. He was drafted into the Blues this year and I'd never even heard of him!