North vs South
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@mariner4life said in North vs South:
@Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:
First XV -> Club -> NPC
that only happens in the shit teams like ours. The good teams like @Chris-B 's mob and the Cantabs just buy in who they want
Now ordinarily, I would let this slide past as largely bollocks driven by the envy and despair of those watching their old Div II compadres get ahead on the back of their hard work and intelligence.
HOWEVER, the acquisition of Reece and Talea (poached as eggs) requires address as it is indicative of a new era for the Mako. We have become a TEAM OF CHOICE!
So, I'll share transcripts of a couple of conversations:
CONVERSATION 1
Sevu - Hey... Waikato,
Ta$man says why don't I go down there and play for a team of winners!
WRU - But, Sevu - if you go down there, you'll never play in a Ranfurly Shield Challenge again!
Sevu - Hey, don't try than 1960s bullshit on me, man. This is the 2020s!
CONVERSATION 2
Mark Talea - Hey Leon, Ta$man says if I want to make the ABs, I should go down there for the NPC and get some elite coaching and play for a team of winners.
Leon - Ooooh, weeellll. It's a toughie. There's quite a lot in what they say. You should definitely think about it, but......awww, you should probably get a second opinion. Why don't you ask your North Harbour coach and see what he thinks.
Mark Talea - Cheers Leon. I'll have a word with KK and see what he says.
Leon - Make sure you come back to the Blues next year, though.
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@Chris-B said in North vs South:
@mariner4life said in North vs South:
@Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:
First XV -> Club -> NPC
that only happens in the shit teams like ours. The good teams like @Chris-B 's mob and the Cantabs just buy in who they want
Now ordinarily, I would let this slide past as largely bollocks driven by the envy and despair of those watching their old Div II compadres get ahead on the back of their hard work and intelligence.
HOWEVER, the acquisition of Reece and Talea (poached as eggs) requires address as it is indicative of a new era for the Mako. We have become a TEAM OF CHOICE!
So, I'll share transcripts of a couple of conversations:
CONVERSATION 1
Sevu - Hey... Waikato,
Ta$man says why don't I go down there and play for a team of winners!
WRU - But, Sevu - if you go down there, you'll never play in a Ranfurly Shield Challenge again!
Sevu - Hey, don't try than 1960s bullshit on me, man. This is the 2020s!
CONVERSATION 2
Mark Talea - Hey Leon, Ta$man says if I want to make the ABs, I should go down there for the NPC and get some elite coaching and play for a team of winners.
Leon - Ooooh, weeellll. It's a toughie. There's quite a lot in what they say. You should definitely think about it, but......awww, you should probably get a second opinion. Why don't you ask your North Harbour coach and see what he thinks.
Mark Talea - Cheers Leon. I'll have a word with KK and see what he says.
Leon - Make wure you come back to the Blues next year, though.
sick-en-ing
i am sickened.
the South Central Vikings are fast becoming the NY Yankees.
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@mariner4life "The New York Yankees have won 40 AL pennants, winning their first in 1921 and their most recent in 2009. This total is more than twice that of the next-closest team,..."
So we should aim for 40 Championships, by 2107?
That doesn't seem very ambitious!
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@Chris-B said in North vs South:
@mariner4life "The New York Yankees have won 40 AL pennants, winning their first in 1921 and their most recent in 2009. This total is more than twice that of the next-closest team,..."
So we should aim for 40 Championships, by 2107?
That doesn't seem very ambitious!
money is no guarantee of success
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@mariner4life The economic powerhouse that is Ta$man - cutting out the fat and apathetic property speculators from the north!
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If only Levi Aumua was as good as Babe Ruth.
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@Chris-B said in North vs South:
@mariner4life The economic powerhouse that is Ta$man - cutting out the fat and apathetic property speculators from the north!
A lot of ingredients in the last few posts to bake quite the humble pie.....
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Chris-B said in North vs South:
@mariner4life The economic powerhouse that is Ta$man - cutting out the fat and apathetic property speculators from the north!
A lot of ingredients in the last few posts to bake quite the humble pie.....
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@mariner4life said in North vs South:
@Chris-B said in North vs South:
@mariner4life "The New York Yankees have won 40 AL pennants, winning their first in 1921 and their most recent in 2009. This total is more than twice that of the next-closest team,..."
So we should aim for 40 Championships, by 2107?
That doesn't seem very ambitious!
money is no guarantee of success
Our Baron trumps your Baron!
And I just thought - shouldn't an NZ$50 be called a Half-Nelson?!
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@antipodean Sevu's not falling for that, either!
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Possible North Island side without Blues players
- Ayden Johnstone
- Asafo Aumua
- Angus Ta’avao
- Tupou Vaa’i
- Scott Scrafton
- Ardie Savea
- Lachlan Boshier
- Marino Mikaele-Tu’u
- Aaron Smith (c)
- Mitch Hunt
- Wes Goosen
- Anton Lienert-Brown
- Peter Umaga-Jensen
- Sevu Reece
- Damian McKenzie
Bench:
- Ash Dixon
- Aidan Ross
- Alex Fidow
- James Blackwell
- Luke Jacobson
- TJ Perenara
- Vince Aso
- Sean Wainui
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And Nankivell can't play for the NI. Clueless journo.
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
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@Tim said in North vs South:
@Hooroo You don't even watch Waikato games, as you've claimed several times in the past.
He doesn't even watch rugby generally, so I don't know why he has such a strong opinion about this match
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Schrödinger's Match
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@Tim so if your name doesn’t start with A as a front rower do you have a chance?
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Just an aside.
I am (was) looking forward to the match.
A rep match with a bit of parochialism about it.
Regardless of the selection qualification it was/Is still us versus the inbreds. And we'll show them that their precious Saders apparent dominance is built on the back of the size of their cheque book. Ha! Take that you poxy little island at the bottom of the world.
But I digress ...
I think they've pick a good qualifier with first provincial team.
If they'd picked place of birth, current province or current SR franchise we'd hear the same whinging.
Draw a line somewhere and they have.
Good concept especially in this environment.
Much better than a god awful borefest probables v possibles with absolutely nothing on it.
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@booboo yeah exactly - at least there's something to get behind. Maybe they could have let the players decide if they had "links" to both islands, but then that's probably a whole other can of worms.
You'd have to be a super grump to be upset at this game.
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@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
Presumably because it then has some meaning behind it and so it doubles as an attractive product at a time when NZR are trying to get as much revenue as possible. They had sold 30k+ tickets to the fixture before the covid outbreak.
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born? -
@KiwiMurph said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
Presumably because it then has some meaning behind it and so it doubles as an attractive product at a time when NZR are trying to get as much revenue as possible. They had sold 30k+ tickets to the fixture before the covid outbreak.
That's a fair point. It looks as though it would have sold out.
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@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@junior said in North vs South:
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
@Tim said in North vs South:
@Machpants This is more important.
How so? This is a nothing game with no meaning to it. Who cares if North or South win?
It's an All Blacks trial, that's why.
Who really gives a toss about Waikato playing Hawkes Bay?
Is it though? If that is the case then why a mickey mouse selection of North and South?
So what would be your selection criteria?
Birth?
3 years residency?
Where a grandparent was born?Well I would gear it so that the likes of DMac plays for the south, the Barrets would be in the same team and I'm unsure on Aaron Smith
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@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo based on what?
Loosely, where they are from. I haven't thought about it too hard. I find it weird that DMac is in the North team.
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Not feeling overly confident with the trio of halfbacks in the South squad.
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@ACT-Crusader North missing half their squad from training until Weds, including the one and only 10!
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personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
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@Machpants BB isn't the one and only 10. They've just hidden Mitch Hunt in the list of the outside backs.
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@Stargazer yeah, RugbyPass made a headline about it on facebook...until everyone point out Hunt...and Dmac...who's played 10 for the AB's...
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@booboo said in North vs South:
Just an aside.
I am (was) looking forward to the match.
A rep match with a bit of parochialism about it.
Regardless of the selection qualification it was/Is still us versus the inbreds. And we'll show them that their precious Saders apparent dominance is built on the back of the size of their cheque book. Ha! Take that you poxy little island at the bottom of the world.
But I digress ...
I think they've pick a good qualifier with first provincial team.
If they'd picked place of birth, current province or current SR franchise we'd hear the same whinging.
Draw a line somewhere and they have.
Good concept especially in this environment.
Much better than a god awful borefest probables v possibles with absolutely nothing on it.
Now that the Blues seem to be buying their way to title contention I am looking forward these accusations thrown at them too, much like England is now accused of poaching...
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@Kiwiwomble said in North vs South:
personally i would have prefered either
A ) Probables v Possibles - if they actually want any trial aspects, they were good, there was always a bit of an underdog vibe for the possibles, will they get one over on the incumbents
B ) final First XV - if this is supposed to be a bit more of a spectical, high schools love bragging about their old boys that have done well, COVID aside, they could have had videos in the lead up of the big names going back to these schools, watch parties, training/team photos in their old jerseys, rivals schools from the same island getting behind the same team or conversely lots of banter about "my school has three in the team where yours only has one" kind of shit
currently....its just this game, which will be great im sure...but it could ave been a bit more
I'd be vehemently against that. That rewards poaching schools. Not that players are often poached from a school from the other Island, but still. It should either be the school which they first played 1st XV for (so the poached school, not the poaching school), or the school they spent most time at for their education.
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@Hooroo said in North vs South:
Well I would gear it so that the likes of DMac plays for the south, the Barrets would be in the same team and I'm unsure on Aaron Smith
@booboo said in North vs South:
@Hooroo based on what?
@Hooroo said in North vs South:
Loosely, where they are from. I haven't thought about it too hard. I find it weird that DMac is in the North team.
I think that's what @booboo is getting at.
No matter what criteria/cut-off you came up with to define "where they are from" - there's going to be one or two, or more, which "don't seem right", at least to somebody.@Kiwiwomble 's suggestion of final First XV - probably has slightly more meaning, but you'd still have people claiming it is a "Mickey Mouse" criteria, and "such-and-such has spent his entire 20 years professional career in the South, but is playing for the North - ridiculous!"
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@Stargazer school where they spent most of their time then i guess, i just suggest final because you're final years would normally be when you shone the most
...not a huge reward though is it and well after the fact...i dont think that would encourage more poaching...to be mentioned a decade after the fact before a one off game
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When I listed a NI and SI team based on 1st XV school Tokolahi was the only player that moved islands, and he isn't in either squad anyway.
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@Bovidae said in North vs South:
When I listed a NI and SI team based on 1st XV school Tokolahi was the only player that moved islands, and he isn't in either squad anyway.
M Hunt? J Ioane?
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