AB Depth Chart 2020
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@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
2012: Our best ever lock; a try scoring phenom; arguably our best ever halfback; 2 x World Player of the Year; one of our best Pro hookers
2016: Back up openside; Squadie with a handful of meaningful caps; part of the midfield rotation; squadie; didn't make the World Cup
I hope 2020 is a bit more inspiring than 2016
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@Tim Hugely impressed with Tyrel Lomax. He is been busy around the field and has always been a strong scrummager as you saw on the weekend. I see him as one of the leading contenders.
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@mariner4life said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
2012: Our best ever lock; a try scoring phenom; arguably our best ever halfback; 2 x World Player of the Year; one of our best Pro hookers
2016: Back up openside; Squadie with a handful of meaningful caps; part of the midfield rotation; squadie; didn't make the World Cup
Ardie was 6 inches of height away from being a miracle flanker
ALB could have been the standout if Hansen had settled on a midfield.
Ioane was injured last year, and timing was just horrificYou're pretty harsh fella
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@mariner4life said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
2012: Our best ever lock; a try scoring phenom; arguably our best ever halfback; 2 x World Player of the Year; one of our best Pro hookers
2016: Back up openside; Squadie with a handful of meaningful caps; part of the midfield rotation; squadie; didn't make the World Cup
I hope 2020 is a bit more inspiring than 2016
Aye? We're talking Rieko, right?
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@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
How is Sam Cane not included in the 2012 group and how is Scott Barrett included in the 2016 gropup?
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@Nepia said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
How is Sam Cane not included in the 2012 group and how is Scott Barrett included in the 2016 gropup?
Cos I missed Cane, I thought he was capped earlier, and Scott Barrett first capped in '16. And I think he is a great player, as do the ABs coaches
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@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Nepia said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Machpants said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Post RWC names of note
2012: Brodie, the bus, Aaron Smith, beaudy, Coles
2016: Ardie, DMac, ALB, Scott Barrett, IoaneSo hopefully we'll get another 5 this year too!
How is Sam Cane not included in the 2012 group and how is Scott Barrett included in the 2016 gropup?
Cos I missed Cane, I thought he was capped earlier, and Scott Barrett first capped in '16. And I think he is a great player, as do the ABs coaches
Each to their own.
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@Tim said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Tighthead Prop
Tyrel Lomax - okay scrummager with potential to improve a lot, has been drilled by a few looseheads. Good around the field but not outstanding.
Lomax has come on in leaps and bounds. He's the way of the future at tighthead. Paul Cully agrees...
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Sotutu to lock in a long term spot?
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@Tim said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Contenders:
Dunshea, Strange, Walker-Leawere.Who is the best of these?
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@Frank Depends on the type of lock they're looking for. If they want a big power lock, IWL is definitely the man. If you want a fast runner and better line-out jumper, it may be Quinten Strange. I'm not totally sold on Dunshea (yet).
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@Stargazer if IWL makes it I will farken scream because we let him walk out the front door
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@canefan For 2021 and beyond, there are still 4 locks in front of any of the contenders. If they're going to pick a fourth lock, this year, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they go for a lock/loosie instead. Don't shoot the messenger, but that may be Fifita or Frizell.
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@Stargazer Tom Robinson another possibility in that role.
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For locks instead of being in the official squad they may bring new contenders in as wider-squad members to learn without them being in the official squad (to bring them into the environment).
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Think Moody and Coltman have been done a disservice here ball in hand and to a lesser degree in defence.
Locks, yeah looks light this year but there were about half a dozen excellent performances in the weekend from a bunch of inexperienced fellas. Parkinson needs to bulk up, Dickson is definitely a contender if he carries on like that, those two young chiefs locks could be perfectly ripe in 3 years time.
The Hodgman myth continues...
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@Tim said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Stargazer Tom Robinson another possibility in that role.
he's starting in the 6 jersey the next time Black jerseys are given out
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@mariner4life If Luke Jacobson stays in one piece, I think he'll wear the 6 jersey.
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@Stargazer said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@mariner4life If Luke Jacobson stays in one piece, I think he'll wear the 6 jersey.
He'd want to play a damn site better than he did on the weekend. The big ginger from Northland looked just like what we've been looking for since Kaino left. Real lineout option, punishing in defence, big engine.
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@antipodean said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Stargazer said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@mariner4life If Luke Jacobson stays in one piece, I think he'll wear the 6 jersey.
He'd want to play a damn site better than he did on the weekend. The big ginger from Northland looked just like what we've been looking for since Kaino left. Real lineout option, punishing in defence, big engine.
Yep would agree Jacobsen wasn't that impressive for a first hit out.Robinson had a big game on Sunday.
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@Stargazer said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Bones In several positions there are more contenders for the years leading up to the 2023RWC. Cullen Grace, Devan Flanders to name just two.
Oh I see....anyone outside Hawkes Bay or Canterbury?
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Performance in the first game after months without playing doesn't say anything.
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@antipodean I am bias as hell, but I love watching him play, has some of that old school abrasiveness to his game, coupled with a huge motor, he would certainly not look out of place at the next level up!
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@Stargazer said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Performance in the first game after months without playing doesn't say anything.
This whole thread has a silly timing. Let's see how things are going at the end of this competition.Agreed. Hard for Luke to impress watching the Blues play in the final.
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@Bones said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Parkinson needs to bulk up
Picture of Bones telling Pari Pari Parkinson he's too little.
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@mariner4life said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
Patty T is my big hope, he's the kind of guy that can just bash opposition packs in to surrender. I really hope this year it finally clicks, because it hasn't yet. But he's going to need a Whitelock-type next to him.
Been really impressed with Pat T's improvement over the last 2 seasons and his attitude. He's worked hard and captaincy seems to have given him a lot of maturity.
Some of his more recent games in Black have been excellent.
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What i liked best about the Ginge was he has built off last year.
2019 was breakout year, but we all knew he was too raw. This year he hasn't succumbed to the dreaded 2nd year syndrome, and in fact has got better. Less penalties for a start. Still way busy and loves to hurt people.
Raped and pillaged the canes lineout too.
Ginge Cane and Sotutu loose trio thanks. Ardie for big impact in the last 30
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@mariner4life said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
What i liked best about the Ginge was he has built off last year.
2019 was breakout year, but we all knew he was too raw. This year he hasn't succumbed to the dreaded 2nd year syndrome, and in fact has got better. Less penalties for a start. Still way busy and loves to hurt people.
Raped and pillaged the canes lineout too.
Ginge Cane and Sotutu loose trio thanks. Ardie for big impact in the last 30
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@Chris-B said in AB Depth Chart 2020:
@Bones You need to see him up close in real life. He is fucking massive.
Tall isn't massive. He's got a fucking concave chest!
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