Transgender debate, in sport, in general
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The last part of that exchange is iconic.
Lawyer: Ms Tickle is a woman, isn’t she?
Sall: Tickle is a biological male.
Lawyer: Even where a person who was assigned male at birth transitions to a woman by having surgery, hormones, gets rid of facial hair, undergoes facial reconstruction, grows their hair long, wears make up, wears female clothes, describes themselves as a woman, introduces themselves as a woman, uses female changing rooms, changes their birth certificate – you don’t accept that is a woman do you?
Sall: No.
Lawyer: I suggest to you that in Australian society, the normal meaning of a woman is someone who has changed their birth certificate to say woman, what would you say to that?
Sall: I don’t agree
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