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Tickle vs Giggle started yesterday in Australia, CASS report published today in the UK.
Reading the tribunaltweets2 account today of the process is genuinely infuriating and ridiculous in equal measure. Hearing the AHRC argue that not only can men become women, but that males can also become female shows how far down the rabbit hole these organisations have fallen. Given the appalling capture of the legal system post Gillard's bill, I can't see how Sal Grover wins this case but assuming she's still committed to the appeal to the Supreme Court it may be a necessary step to peak the Australian public and eventually get the law reexamined.
As for the CASS report, holy shit, what a vindication of people like Graham Linehan who've been cancelled for stating exactly what this report has found. That Gender affirming care, puberty blockers and hormones prescribed to children were based not on a medical evidence base but on a social pressure. I hope this is the beginning of the end of the concept of Trans kids and the immediate end of what at this stage can only be thought of as child abuse.
The world is waking up but the TRA lobby will not go quietly.
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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
the rabbit hole these organisations have fallen. Given the appalling capture of the legal system post Gillard's bill, I can't see how Sal Grover wins this case but assuming she's still committed to the appeal to the Supreme Court it may be a necessary step to peak the Australian public and eventually get the law reexamined.
Not across the "law" here, but commonsense tells you ... oh, yeah sorry...
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@Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:
The world is waking up but the TRA lobby will not go quietly.
Was listening to a phone-in on the Cass Report and some of trans lobby were unbelievable - calling the report a licence to murder Trans people, comparable to the Holocaust, etc, etc.
Seriously deranged and dangerous people.
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The last part of that exchange is iconic.
Lawyer: Ms Tickle is a woman, isn’t she?
Sall: Tickle is a biological male.
Lawyer: Even where a person who was assigned male at birth transitions to a woman by having surgery, hormones, gets rid of facial hair, undergoes facial reconstruction, grows their hair long, wears make up, wears female clothes, describes themselves as a woman, introduces themselves as a woman, uses female changing rooms, changes their birth certificate – you don’t accept that is a woman do you?
Sall: No.
Lawyer: I suggest to you that in Australian society, the normal meaning of a woman is someone who has changed their birth certificate to say woman, what would you say to that?
Sall: I don’t agree
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Transgender debate, in sport, in general