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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @mooshld said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Cruden has looked in top form.

    Did you not see the Brumbies game? He doesn't tackle any more. His defensive is a long way below international standard.

    Cruden made a number of important and try-saving tackles against the Crusaders. That said, it is better to look to the future so I don't see him being in the mix.

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    @Bones said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B Grace, Robinson, Marino, etc, etc!

    Papalii, Jacobsen ...

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    I guess I may have to start watching him closely, but I don't yet see what people see in Papalii. He seems adequate in most of the roles of a loose forward, but master of none. He doesn't seem the smartest player going around either. Those that rate him highly, what exactly do you rate him highly for?

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    No way on Fifita. The guy has way too many brain explosions.

    I'd rather have someone like Gareth Evans or Boshier.

    Edit: or Robinson - too soon for someone like Grace.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    I guess I may have to start watching him closely, but I don't yet see what people see in Papalii. He seems adequate in most of the roles of a loose forward, but master of none. He doesn't seem the smartest player going around either. Those that rate him highly, what exactly do you rate him highly for?

    High work rate, huge defence (accurate, hardly misses tackles), hits a lot of rucks, tall and a good lineout target. Covers all three looseforward positions.

    Is seen as a future captain, so not sure I agree with the smart comment. Does push the line a bit too much at seven, but will get better at picking his moments. Lots of sevens get penalised a lot.

    He's like Robinson, no regard for his body and never stops working.

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    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Bones said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B Grace, Robinson, Marino, etc, etc!

    Papalili, Jacobsen ...

    I decided not to consider Jacobsen because there seems a reasonable chance he'll be on the sidelines for a while.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    I guess I may have to start watching him closely, but I don't yet see what people see in Papalii. He seems adequate in most of the roles of a loose forward, but master of none. He doesn't seem the smartest player going around either. Those that rate him highly, what exactly do you rate him highly for?

    High work rate, huge defence (accurate, hardly misses tackles), hits a lot of rucks, tall and a good lineout target. Covers all three looseforward positions.

    Is seen as a future captain, so not sure I agree with the smart comment. Does push the line a bit too much at seven, but will get better at picking his moments. Lots of sevens get penalised a lot.

    He's like Robinson, no regard for his body and never stops working.

    Wow, it's seems like I haven't watched him at all. Guess I will have to focus on him when I watch the Blues over the next few weeks.

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    @Crazy-Horse It's really noticable when he's not playing for us, he cleans up a lot. Gibson's suberb 20mins aside last week, Dalton is getting through a lot more work.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan

    He gave away a lot of penalties last year, particularly at 7

    This year he’s only conceded 3 in 5 games

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    @Machpants agreed, Jordie has been good for the Canes and his kicking at 90 odd % will please the All Blacks. He voiced is displeasure at the fact he needed to rest against the Sunwolves which may have stunted his early-season form, hopefully he can get some of that back this Friday as we will need it big time.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Bones said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B Grace, Robinson, Marino, etc, etc!

    Papalili, Jacobsen ...

    I decided not to consider Jacobsen because there seems a reasonable chance he'll be on the sidelines for a while.

    Based on? He has a minor hammy issue.

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B Aumua at Hooker instead of Coltman for me. Aumua has been solid this year in his core work and definitely offers more than Coltman on attack. The fact we need to blood young talent in that position also puts him at an advantage.

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    Am still of the opinion that it's way too early in the SR season.

    Anyway, if he plays as well after his return from the injury ward as he did in the first rounds, I expect David Havili to be in the squad. The form back until his surgery. Maybe at the expense of Jordie.

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    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Bones said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B Grace, Robinson, Marino, etc, etc!

    Papalili, Jacobsen ...

    I decided not to consider Jacobsen because there seems a reasonable chance he'll be on the sidelines for a while.

    Based on? He has a minor hammy issue.

    Is that all! I thought he'd had a return of concussion symptoms?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by Crucial
    #285

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Crucial said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @booboo said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Bones said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @Chris-B Grace, Robinson, Marino, etc, etc!

    Papalili, Jacobsen ...

    I decided not to consider Jacobsen because there seems a reasonable chance he'll be on the sidelines for a while.

    Based on? He has a minor hammy issue.

    Is that all! I thought he'd had a return of concussion symptoms?

    Fake news

    Edit: there was a description of 'neural issues' and people jumped to a conclusion. Something to do with a nerve in/near the hammy. He can run fine but it flares up when pushing in scrums/rucks apparently.
    A couple of Panadol and a lie down and he'll be fine.

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  • TimT Away
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    According to Nigel Yelden, Dalton Papalii's rest game was not due to his brief time in the ABs last year, but his possible inclusion in an AB squad this year. Doesn't mean they selected a squad.

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  • J Offline
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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #287

    @Bovidae said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @sparky said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    @mooshld said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    Cruden has looked in top form.

    Did you not see the Brumbies game? He doesn't tackle any more. His defensive is a long way below international standard.

    Cruden made a number of important and try-saving tackles against the Crusaders. That said, it is better to look to the future so I don't see him being in the mix.

    Why? The guy is only 30 and, although he is off to Japan shortly, there is no reason why he can't be a genuine squad option for the next World Cup if his form is good enough. He's actually been a very decent AB first-five and could still do a job at a major tournament if required to do so - certainly more of a natural 10 than BB and with a far better temperament and game management than RM. I think the selectors would be mad to write him off as an option now that he's available again.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    replied to junior on last edited by
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    @junior Cruden has a 2 yr contract at Kobe with the possibility of an extension so he won't be playing in NZ beyond this season.

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life Taukei'aho over Aumua.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Possible All Blacks 2020:

    According to Nigel Yelden, Dalton Papalii's rest game was not due to his brief time in the ABs last year, but his possible inclusion in an AB squad this year. Doesn't mean they selected a squad.

    This. everyone moaning about the rest weeks seems to be forgetting that they are there to make sure tat potential All Blacks (e.g., Ennor who didn't even go to the WC) are at their best when they are needed in black later in this year.

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