Cricket: NZ vs Aus
-
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
Honestly, the DRS is a huge improvement on that sort of decision making. It was horrific, and favoured 'big' teams and players.
-
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
-
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
happened makes it sound like it was in the past.
-
The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
-
@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
-
-
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Are you questioning their outrage, bro?
-
@Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
**It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
**
French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.
The curious case of Miandad's lbw rates
Possible umpiring bias alone does not adequately explain why he was dismissed lbw in Pakistan much less than he was outside the country
-
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
-
@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
Yeah but he was a chucker?
-
@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
Yeah but he was a chucker?
he looked like a chucker
-
-
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Maybe this one too
The arrogance of the commentator...."clasp your helmet all you like son, but look in the paper tomorrow and you'll find you're out LBW"
-
@Xpat61 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓Watching that video reminded me of the stark difference in personality between Hadlee and Kane. I can't imagine Kane talking so bluntly about his perfect performance and rattling of records. Not that I think there's anything particularly wrong about what Hadlee was saying, but the difference is pretty stark I think.
Kane really gives the lie to the notion that is succeed as an elite athlete you have to be at least a little bit arrogant, and I love him all the more for that.
-
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Xpat61 said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Watched the first day of the Gabba test in a Pub in Dubbo Country NSW.
As the locals growling got louder with my celebration of each wicket I curbed my enthusiasm somewhat 🤓Watching that video reminded me of the stark difference in personality between Hadlee and Kane. I can't imagine Kane talking so bluntly about his perfect performance and rattling of records. Not that I think there's anything particularly wrong about what Hadlee was saying, but the difference is pretty stark I think.
Kane really gives the lie to the notion that is succeed as an elite athlete you have to be at least a little bit arrogant, and I love him all the more for that.
Paddles was always openly motivated by records, it’s what drove him. I’m sure there are plenty of other players who are too, maybe they just hide it better.
I’d imagine Kane would have goals too, like the number of test centuries he will finish with etc.Paddles attitude definitely rubbed people and fellow team mates up the wrong way. To be fair he was one of the few professionals in a team full of amateurs.
Then there was the incident over the car he won later that season..
-
Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing
-
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Kane has the luxury of being surrounded by half a dozen of our best ever players. Paddles could never say the same thing
After Paddles rolled them in the first innings Crowe got 188 so they at least had one world class player in each discipline.
I'll take our all-time greats however we get them but Crowe and Paddles were odd ducks for sure and I'm sure their birth certificates needed to be checked on multiple occasions to make sure they weren't born the other side of the ditch (SRH more than Crowe), but it seemed to work for them.
Kane seems to be cut from a different cloth. Whatever cloth they have going in the bay with Peter Burling and Sam Cane.
