Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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I think we will get absolutely smashed in the first test.
The we have a FC game v Victoria to fill in the gap before boxing day.
So by 2nd and 3rd test, I won't accept too many excuses.We will get beat, though.
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
We have good batting, but with Raval out of form, I'm now a bit worried about how deep we bat, with keeper at 6.
Not liking Taylor's front foot pulling and hooking I've seen in the England series, that won't last long over there. Also expect Santner's batting to struggle over there.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
OK well this one as well if you really want.
FWIW just go and look at Rob Moody's recent Twitter posts, I could go all day. Some all-time clangers there.
Poor old Cairnsy. Couldn't buy a wicket.
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@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
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I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"
Also, Hair was a fucking cheat
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
Their bowling attack got chopped and changed a bit and they brought some fucking teenagers over for a throwaway series
Took 13 wickets out of a possible 40 and were bowled out twice because of it.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
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In The Playing Mantis, Coney devotes a whole chapter to how bad this ODI in Multan was...
PAK vs NZ Cricket Scorecard, 4th ODI at Multan, December 07, 1984
Get cricket scorecard of 4th ODI, PAK vs NZ, New Zealand tour of Pakistan 1984/85 at Ibn-e-Qasim Bagh Stadium, Multan dated December 07, 1984.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
Honestly, the DRS is a huge improvement on that sort of decision making. It was horrific, and favoured 'big' teams and players.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
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@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
happened makes it sound like it was in the past.
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The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
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@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Are you questioning their outrage, bro?
