Cricket: NZ vs Aus
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@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
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I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
Old school south african rugby refs would wince and think "geez, that's a bit much"
Also, Hair was a fucking cheat
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Rapido said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Australia very good at home. Finding Labuschagne changes them from a bit dodgy to solid as. Getting Smith back turns them into almost unbeatable. Plus, Warner in home conditions ....
Australia now have a very settled 11.
The only thing I will say on this is that Pakistan looked like a 4th grade club side in the two tests we played. Was that because of our skill/dominance or their complete incompetence? The latter would not surprise me.
Their bowling attack got chopped and changed a bit and they brought some fucking teenagers over for a throwaway series
Took 13 wickets out of a possible 40 and were bowled out twice because of it.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
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In The Playing Mantis, Coney devotes a whole chapter to how bad this ODI in Multan was...
PAK vs NZ Cricket Scorecard, 4th ODI at Multan, December 07, 1984
Get cricket scorecard of 4th ODI, PAK vs NZ, New Zealand tour of Pakistan 1984/85 at Ibn-e-Qasim Bagh Stadium, Multan dated December 07, 1984.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Of course, the other side is we now get neutral umpires who are so incompetent they couldn't even cheat right.
Honestly, the DRS is a huge improvement on that sort of decision making. It was horrific, and favoured 'big' teams and players.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
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@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@mariner4life said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
I'm all for a bit of trans-tasman shit talk
But questioning Australian cricket umpiring for the period of the late 80s through to neutral umpiring is not shit talk. It's a rogues gallery of the dodgiest sporting officialdom you will ever see. Darrell Hair was a deadset cheat. And he was hardly alone in that bracket either.
I don't dispute that, although I think some of the subcontinental umpires would have a decent crack at the 'dodgiest official' title.
I think I saw one join an Indian wicket celebration once.
Reading some Aussie player biographies, the dodgy shit that happened on the subcontinent was amusing in its sheer fuckery. I think it was Matt Hayden writing about one ODI series that they were on track to win. Manager comes into the changing rooms with a few overs to go in the last game, and interrupts the high fiving and handshakes with "No prizemoney, fellas".
happened makes it sound like it was in the past.
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The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
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@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
The BS in Australia continued well into the 00's before DRS when they had home third umpires and ODI umpires.
The India/Australia debacle in Sydney began with about three poor third umpire calls from Oxenford in the first innings and the next summer Craig McMillan was sawn off from a century by Simon Tawful.
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Are you questioning their outrage, bro?
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@Bovidae said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
**It was well known that Miandad was never given out LBW at home so touring teams kind of accepted that.
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French and Crafter probably have their photos on the wall at the MCG to commemorate their careers.Javed Miandad given out lbw eight times in Tests at home.
The curious case of Miandad's lbw rates
Possible umpiring bias alone does not adequately explain why he was dismissed lbw in Pakistan much less than he was outside the country
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@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
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@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
Yeah but he was a chucker?
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@NTA said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@rotated said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@barbarian said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
@Cyclops said in Cricket: NZ vs Aus:
Even McGrath thought that was a no ball based on his total lack of celebration.
Wouldn't that be a square leg call though?
Can be either. That egregious and dipping on the offside is regularly the bowling umpires call.
Standing at the bowler's end hasn't stopped Aussie umpires calling no ball at home in the past just ask Murali.
Yeah but he was a chucker?
he looked like a chucker
