RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@antipodean said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
- Our tight five couldn't get front foot ball or make enough dominant tackles.
- Our loose forwards couldn't get to the breakdown quick enough.
- Our lineout got dominated despite having more genuine options.
- Our backline with that sort of ball, couldn't penetrate and we too often passed too deep meaning we couldn't get over the advantage line.
- Then we made stupid errors, throwing the ball away when we weren't getting bundled into touch.
And yet for all that, England still couldn't score another try. It puts their quarter final into some perspective.
I think that's two quarter finals in a row we've expended tremendous energy fighting a boogeyman in our own minds. A terrible, disinterested France in 2015 and then Ireland four years later. If there's a flat track bully in world rugby, it's got to be the All Blacks. Once we have dominance, no team puts the boot on the throat like we do.
That's so sad, but seems pretty true.
Our performance seems to support it - get on top of us early and we won't show any resilience to come back and beat you.
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@antipodean Yeah, the coaches got really worked up about the defeat against Ireland without seeming to twig that it was the tough test against England the week before they made them knackered against Ireland.
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@Kruse said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Chris said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK FUUUUUUUUUUCK FUUUUUUUCK
Have you been stalking me?
That was literally me walking home from the stadium, taking the long lonely road through dodgy districts to avoid the fucking “swing low”.
And now that you remind me, standing in this lovely little polite japanese standing bar, watching a replay of the last 20 minutes....
FAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRK !I feel for you Brother
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We even lost the haka
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@Kirwan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@The-Eagle said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.
PS good to see you fellas
Another blast from the past, good to see you too.
As I explained to my son, fans are allowed to be happy for their team. Sucks for us, but that’s sport.
A bit creepy as I mentioned @The-Eagle earlier in my "gloaters" comment and will not be surprised to see Dodge either.
We were done rugby wise but funny how people show up again...just saying.
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@ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....
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@mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@ACT-Crusader Aplogies re Eddies Brumbie exact years. Hansen partly culpable in my book but even then Eng looked remarkably well coached. Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest? Maybe one or 2 for me.....
I'll say this - Itoje finally stepped up in my eyes to be the player he's long been touted to be. He was superb. So were the two young flankers.
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@antipodean Itoje no question. Brodie remains top of the pile though for myself globally. Sublime player. Possibly too green post injury. Their loosies were great considering Ardie and Cane when he was on just had so little actual effect.
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@mantissanet said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Who out of today’s Eng team make a world 15 head and shoulders above the rest?
On today's performance there wouldn't have been an All Black at all, but I get your point England played well as a team.
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@Snowy Goodhue still number one is his jersey globally by a country mile in my book...and the amount of number 2 jerseys after today in your team globally is still probably pretty high
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@mantissanet Not sure that Goodhue is THAT good, but yes up there - as for the others - second doesn't cut it.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?
Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.
Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.
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@Snowy Better 13 than him at the mo. Really interested.... Such a different jersey to 12 and he has owned it through too many victories in a structure I would never have messed with if I was Hansen to think otherwise. Long conversation about 13 vs 12 but he has been ridiculously solid for ages despite that mullet
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Drinking a lot of beer here in SA too. My heart was sold on an AB Bok final. I’m bleak. Commiserations. Heartfelt.
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@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?
Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.
Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.
I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.
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Super disappointed in our performance. But not super surprised. England have been building nicely for 2 years now and would have been targeting this match. We fell into the old trap of trying to play their game. Hell we even picked a team to combat theirs. A confident team picks their team to play their way.
The start was absolutely turgid. You won't see a softer try then that. Even school boys would be ashamed of that defence. When that didn't trigger any sort of response Perth 2.0 was on the cards. Our defense was the most passive I have seen.
With Owens as the ref is crazy how few rucks we contested. And for all this red head blue head stuff. When the pressure came on our discipline turned to shit.
My only complaint with Owens is that shoulder hit has been a card all cup. Not even a penalty is just a bad call. Not that we wouldn't have lost anyway.
I know the All Blacks like leaders all over the park. But this two play makers thing annoys me. You need someone running the cutter. Some one to say right I'm changing things. I don't see how this works with 2 10s on the park.
Anyway it's only a game we had a great run. I can't say I have any strong feelings towards any of the teams still in. So good luck to them all.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?
Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.
Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.
I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.
Sorry, completely whooshed?
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@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Snowy when do you want this coat fabric bud?
Was going to start with that guy with the 2019 tattoo That sort of jinxing is worthy.
Still thinking about the rest of them. I'll start with the forwards then work smaller clothing from the backs.
I have a small female pelt with a few blonde hairs left sticking out.
Sorry, completely whooshed?
It was nice knowing Bonesetta.
