RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan
IIRC, Owens said Todd made no attempt to tackle or go for the ball. Obstruction?At first there was the offside call and then towards the end of the back and forth he said Todd didn’t attempt to use arms or wrap.
So what is intriguing is if he overturned the offside call he made onfield after the replay?
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Siam yea he made some poor decisions by his standards, more akin to what I'd expect from Garces, fortunately none of them were game affecting, for us or them.
The neck roll incident on Ardie could have been serious if he wasn't such a meast. Compare that to the one Owens pinged us for, I defy any of these NH hacks to say we get all the calls
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The one thing Owens did a little better than Garces IMHO was police the offside line (either that or the Irish didn't try to push the limit as much as the English). It is heartening to note that we didn't get a lot of the calls go our way (I haven't seen an official penalty count but the second half seemed to go against us more often than not) and yet it didn't stop us from beating them down
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@Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan penalties v13-6, that for entire game
I assume we were 6?
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@Siam I hate how you can be part of a maul from the start, work your way through, end up on the side, nek minut you are pinged (think Ardie got done for one of them)
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
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@sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Not really sure what Matt Todd could do there?
Tackle?
Exactly. It ain’t about intent anymore. Or even it being an accident. If you’re in the way, flailing around like a epileptic squid you’re gonna get pinged. Todd got sent off for being a muppet. Can’t even claim cynicism, just rubbishness.
He's directly responsible for both of Ireland's tries. His YC was deserved - you're supposed to tackle.
Please explain to me the rule that Todd broke? He was inside, the vision clearly showed that. He did not make shoulder or arm contact with the irish player's head. It was at best a collision I would have thought? Honest question
I'd go with foul play obstruction. He made no attempt to tackle and simply plopped himself in the way.
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Watching the replay now, i hadn't appreciated how much depth the backs gave themselves. Stood deep on 1st phase and used lots of 2nd runners. Really added space from that quick defense.
Oh and Sam fucking Cane man, what a weapon.
Quick edit to give my myself a virtual uppercut for being one of those fuckwits who was carrying on about Read a few months back because he had "lost a yard of pace". What a Muppet. His transformation to this new tight(er) role has been amazing.
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This from Eddie Osullivan
“That’s a strong New Zealand backline but it’s not the perfect backline. I’m really happy about Barrett being at 15 because I don’t think he’s going to get his hands on the ball as much. I don’t think he gets his hands on the ball as much when he’s at 15. It’s practically impossible to bring him into the game as much as Richie Mo’unga will be. Joe’s got a very predictable, very solid, very experienced XV, compared to the All Blacks XV which is not as experienced and I would say not quite as solid. Richie Mo’unga has not a great kicking game. He’s not as astute at exploiting (the space) in the back field. That’s good for us. Especially, if it’s wet. It’s another weakness. It’s hard to believe we’re talking about All Black weaknesses. When you compare them to Sexton, if it comes down to a drop goal or a late penalty in a one-score game, that gives us an edge there”.21 - Beauden Barrett made 21 carries in #NZLvIRE, the most ever by an @AllBlacks player in a @rugbyworldcup match, surpassing the previous best tally set by John Kirwan and Buck Shelford who both made 20 against Italy in 1987.
Key.
#RWC2019🤣
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@Machpants it’s funny listening to the nh analysis,
Listening to Stuart Barnes before the game , Barrett should be playing 10 but they can’t trust his goal kicking, so mounga has been brought into the side. That is a weakness.
They have no idea.
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Add Sevu Reece to the list for potential NZ player of the year.
(along with Ardie Savea and ALB)He has been absolutely outstanding, and is playing with huge confidence. Defence solid, high ball work solid, and super dangerous each time he gets the ball.
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Watching the game again, Todd injured lead up to his send off. Carrying his arm really weird. Might not see him next week
EDIT: Yup I'm a genius doctor
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@Machpants If it's a dislocated shoulder, then surely they will bring a player in. Papalii (although he looked to have picked up an injury yesterday) or Squire perhaps.
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Finally getting to the aftermatch interviews and isn't Shag a great advertisement for the game these days - some subtle humour, great recognition of opponents at the right time (making a point of his first utterance being to acknowledge Schmidt and Best was pure class) and also calling attention to Reado for his efforts over the entirety of the season and then his work in this game.
