RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)
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@Nepia said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@mariner4life @jegga Do we even have any Irish posters on the Fern in general, that would bite on that rancid bait?
There was Irish Richard, but I heard he may have died. Literally and not in the BOD way.
There are a couple of other members that carry the name Irish in their usernames.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
There was Irish Richard, but I heard he may have died.
Well that sucks, and he had good taste in tractors.
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@ACT-Crusader oh wow, that aint good!
He had the (mis) fortune of watching a Northland game with me one time many years back, I think he was younger than me too IIRC?
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@Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
There was Irish Richard, but I heard he may have died.
Well that sucks, and he had good taste in tractors.
Was a Massey Ferguson fan?
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@ACT-Crusader oh wow, that aint good!
He had the (mis) fortune of watching a Northland game with me one time many years back, I think he was younger than me too IIRC?
everyone is younger than you
except dogmeat obviously. he's older than Jesus
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Well done Japan! Did. Not. Expect. That.
My sympathies with Irish fans. I know exactly how you feel right now.I still think Ireland will come out top of the pool. The Boks managed that in 2015 and as impressive as the Brave Blossoms were on the day, they have 2 very tough games coming up against opposition who will definitely not underestimate them.
By the way: Does that result make Jamie Joseph a coaching "genius" like Eddie Jones?
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I guess we can expect a couple of these over the next few days:
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@Rapido said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.
As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.
It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.
I don't give a shit about Ireland's run in. They're no longer contenders. But they're potential party poopers. I prefer a Saf 07 run.
My own theory about 2015, which is a theory a tad disrespectful to Heyneke's boks, is that NZ spent far to much emotional energy in our 1/4 final dispatching a poor France, because we had demons to exorcise, leaving us still partially spent in our relatively brain dead semifinal performance that we squeaked past.
Great teams can still get past that, of course, we aren't great though. Were currently 'only' good.
Excellent post. The emotional energy to overcome Ireland (who we owe for last year) potentially leaves us exposed should we make a semi a week later. A flat performance against England or Australia in a semi, like we had against RSA in 2015, and we're toast this time. Hence, my very strong preference for a QF against Japan.
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@junior said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Rapido said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Rapido as will Ireland if that is who we face, and I cant see them doing that on the evidence of thier play this year.
As someone else alluded to above, they are gonna have to play thier top lineup again, as they try to top thier pool.
It will be interesting to see if Japan can replicate that performance again, I'm not sure they can either.
I don't give a shit about Ireland's run in. They're no longer contenders. But they're potential party poopers. I prefer a Saf 07 run.
My own theory about 2015, which is a theory a tad disrespectful to Heyneke's boks, is that NZ spent far to much emotional energy in our 1/4 final dispatching a poor France, because we had demons to exorcise, leaving us still partially spent in our relatively brain dead semifinal performance that we squeaked past.
Great teams can still get past that, of course, we aren't great though. Were currently 'only' good.
Excellent post. The emotional energy to overcome Ireland (who we owe for last year) potentially leaves us exposed should we make a semi a week later. A flat performance against England or Australia in a semi, like we had against RSA in 2015, and we're toast this time. Hence, my very strong preference for a QF against Japan.
Same as the 2011 final after the perfect SF. If we play Ireland I'd rather win a tight game, at least it might stop any complacency
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@Billy-Webb said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Well done Japan! Did. Not. Expect. That.
My sympathies with Irish fans. I know exactly how you feel right now.I still think Ireland will come out top of the pool. The Boks managed that in 2015 and as impressive as the Brave Blossoms were on the day, they have 2 very tough games coming up against opposition who will definitely not underestimate them.
By the way: Does that result make Jamie Joseph a coaching "genius" like Eddie Jones?
It’s an interesting question about JJ. The Highlanders haven’t been as good since he left, and in both teams he gets a lot out of limited players.
Be interesting to see what he could do with the best. He might have a better approach with someone like Akira too, instead of throwing him publicly under a bus like Hanson did (same with Luatua).
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@jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@Snowy said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
There was Irish Richard, but I heard he may have died.
Well that sucks, and he had good taste in tractors.
Was a Massey Ferguson fan?
John Deere. Clearly being Irish he liked green.
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As Squidge says Johnny-cock Sex-womble
Sexton: 'Ireland's loss to Japan is a blessing in disguise'
Johnny Sexton believes Ireland could benefit from their shock loss to Japan after cruising through the pool stages in their last two World Cup campaigns.
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Ireland incorrectly penalised against Japan
Ireland coach Joe Schmidt says World Rugby has confirmed that there were three incorrect offsides calls in their shock loss to Japan. World Cup hosts Japan produced one of the upsets of the tournament by claiming a 19-12 win over Ireland, who were favourites to progress to the playoffs unbeaten. The game was refereed by Angus Gardner, who was assisted by Jerome Garces and Matthew Carley. Garces will be in charge of Ireland’s next match against Russia on Thursday. After submitting his referee review to World Rugby in the aftermath of that result, Schmidt was told in the feedback from the governing body that his side was incorrectly penalised on three occassions. ‘We were penalised for offside four times and we’ve now got the feedback that three of those were incorrect calls,’ Schmidt was quoted by The 42. ‘People were asking us about our discipline. ‘It’s pretty hard to keep getting off the line and on to the front foot when you are getting those calls. Two of them were from an assitant referee who is going to be refereeing us on Thursday [Jerome Garces], so we know we’re going to have to be on our best behaviour. ‘One thing I would say about this team is that, generally speaking, it’s unusual for us to have a higher penalty count than our opponents, so it’s frustrating.’ -
@Stargazer said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):
Ireland incorrectly penalised against Japan
Ireland coach Joe Schmidt says World Rugby has confirmed that there were three incorrect offsides calls in their shock loss to Japan. World Cup hosts Japan produced one of the upsets of the tournament by claiming a 19-12 win over Ireland, who were favourites to progress to the playoffs unbeaten. The game was refereed by Angus Gardner, who was assisted by Jerome Garces and Matthew Carley. Garces will be in charge of Ireland’s next match against Russia on Thursday. After submitting his referee review to World Rugby in the aftermath of that result, Schmidt was told in the feedback from the governing body that his side was incorrectly penalised on three occassions. ‘We were penalised for offside four times and we’ve now got the feedback that three of those were incorrect calls,’ Schmidt was quoted by The 42. ‘People were asking us about our discipline. ‘It’s pretty hard to keep getting off the line and on to the front foot when you are getting those calls. Two of them were from an assitant referee who is going to be refereeing us on Thursday [Jerome Garces], so we know we’re going to have to be on our best behaviour. ‘One thing I would say about this team is that, generally speaking, it’s unusual for us to have a higher penalty count than our opponents, so it’s frustrating.’I'm editing my initial reaction to this post.
I'd like to see the actual report. Call me skeptical.
Secondly, did they review how many times you got away with being offside?
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Ireland coach Joe Schmidt
"We've had an opportunity to study and analyse our selections, tactics, and performance against Japan last Saturday and come to the conclusion that the players and myself can do a lot better.
Congratulations to Japan for besting us in most aspects of the match and most importantly on the scoreboard.
Their WC destiny is in their own hands.
As is ours.
We'll need to do a lot better in our remaining pool matches to secure qualification to the QF stages.
All we can do at this stage is concentrate on our fixtures, work hard between matches, and deliver performances the Irish public can be proud of."
You're welcome Joe
