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  • sparkyS Do not disturb
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    The Canada game looks the ideal opportunity to give Jordie Barrett some match time at First Five Eight and get up to speed playing number 10 at International level.

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    @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    The Canada game looks the ideal opportunity to give Jordie Barrett some match time at First Five Eight and get up to speed playing number 10 at International level.

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    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    @Bones

    I donโ€™t know if you are referring to next game or in general, but it seems to me if you play your strongest team against Italy thatโ€™s three weeks after the Boks game, you definitely want a hit out before that but you donโ€™t want it on a short week, so it only makes sense for bulk of first team to play this week after having had a good break, with the dirt trackers playing 4 days after that. To me after that tough first game the schedule is perfect. An opportunity to build every week and stay game ready with no short weeks for the 1st team.

    Well sure, if that's the way you think rugby must be done, then it wouldn't make sense. They know what their top side is (if there even is one) and also what plays/plans work when and against who pretty much. What value is there in saying everyone gets played and then not following through? I keep hearing the ABs are getting an easier quarter and also can't play more than 3 decent level games in a row - why does the top team need to play twice before hitting the finals?

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    @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    if there even is one

    I think that is it. There isn't a first 15 (or 23) - at this point anyway.

    There will be different strategies for different opposition. Some guys will need to play more if they have been injured or out of form, others will need a break. I don't like playing guys out of position but even that might have to happen when you are only allowed a squad of 31 and have a couple of easier games.

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    Team I'd pick:

    Moli, Coltman, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulutu, Frizell, Todd, Read (c), Weber, J Barrett, Ioane, SBW, Goodhue, Reece, B.Smith
    Bench: Taylor, Ofa T, Ta'avao, S. Barrett, Cane, TJP, Crotty, B.Barrett.

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    @sparky said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    Team I'd pick:

    Moli, Coltman, Laulala, Whitelock, Tuipulutu, Frizell, Todd, Read (c), Weber, J Barrett, Ioane, SBW, Goodhue, Reece, B.Smith
    Bench: Taylor, Ofa T, Ta'avao, S. Barrett, Cane, TJP, Crotty, B.Barrett.

    Iโ€™d start one of B. Barrett or Moโ€™unga. Jordie can play wing and cover 1st 5.

    Can Frizell play no8? If so Iโ€™d play him there and give Cane a start in the blindside with Todd at openside. Cane had a short run against the Boks.

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    @Crucial said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    Centre combo is the interesting one. They want to give everyone a run, but they've been doing that for four years, its about time the chosen two settled down and developed a combo for at least 2 of the next 3 games.

    According to Fozzie that isn't the philosophy anymore. They want an interchangeable pool of centres and see that as a strength.

    Ah yes, the Black Caps strategy. We don't want a long term pair of test openers instead an interchangeable pool of 5-10 guys on a conveyor belt is much better.

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    @Bones

    Agree to disagree , everyone will play in my scenario, with only Moli , Fritzell and Goodhue needing the opportunity to show form and/or fitness to force/remain in top 23. Also can imagine TJ needing to play at 10 against Namibia so you may need Weber on the bench against Canada and starting against Namibia. Letโ€™s see what he actually does.

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    @DMX but how do you give everyone a run and play your top team in the first two games?

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    I'll leave this here ...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12271876

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    @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    I'll leave this here ...

    Likely?
    Itโ€™s an option for sure but I donโ€™t think itโ€™s likely except for him being in the 23 and may end up there late in the game.
    More likely is that Crotty will play 10 at some stage as he is more likely to be in a big game 23 and would be contingency.

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    @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    I'll leave this here ...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12271876

    Fuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!

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    Seems a long bow to draw to assume JB plays there against Canada. But obviously he is going to get a run there at some point.

    One would assume minimal workload between Canada and Namibia - so whatever formations Napier has seen at training could well be for Namibia.

    I would guess full strength for Canada with an early sub for one of Barrett or Mo'unga who then ride the pine against Namibia with Perenara to cover Jordie at 10.

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    @Bones

    Did Hansen say everyone gets a run first two games? If he did apologies I didnโ€™t see that , then I would only say I would do things a little different, make sure everyone gets a run over first 3 games.

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    You could play me at five-eighth against Canada. They'll be looking to give everyone a run. Timing wise it makes more sense to have the rest of the squad play this week and back up heavily against Namibia.

    From there it's form and fitness for Italy.

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    I would think that getting everyone a game in the first two is necessary given the 10 day gap. If you make some wait until Namibia they will feel like bag carriers. I thought we learned that lesson at tournaments and tours years ago. It is only a 32 man squad, you need everyone involved.

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    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    @Bones

    Did Hansen say everyone gets a run first two games? If he did apologies I didnโ€™t see that , then I would only say I would do things a little different, make sure everyone gets a run over first 3 games.

    I can't actually find anything, but I thought I recall something from maybe post the Tonga game? It's been repeated quite a bit here.

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    When's the team named?

    He says in all innocence

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    @Siam Thursd...oh wait

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    @Siam said in RWC: All Blacks v Canada (Pool ๐Ÿ˜Ž:

    When's the team named?

    ๆœˆๆ›œ

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