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  • MrDenmoreM Offline
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    Just saw the Hodge incident. How on earth did they miss that? It makes Scott Barrett’s shoulder on Hooper, where no one was injured, look like a cuddle in comparison. That Yato had to leave the field, concussed, was reason enough for the video official to have a second look at it. But nothing. If someone gets red in this tournament for a lesser offence (and it’s hard to think of a worse one) the judicial system will be exposed as an even bigger clown show than it already appears.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    @Kirwan said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I only just read that the writer of the tweet was one of the team responsible with writing the protocol. If he doesn't get it then that reffing team need a bollocking. Don't think BOK will be reffing deep into the tournament based on that game.

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    Didn't I hear during the broadcast BOK did ask the TMO who said it was ok? Bit hard for him to take the full blame as it was hot on attack and not sure how close he was. Really should be pointing the finger at the TMO and AR IMO.

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    @chimoaus said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    Didn't I hear during the broadcast BOK did ask the TMO who said it was ok? Bit hard for him to take the full blame as it was hot on attack and not sure how close he was. Really should be pointing the finger at the TMO and AR IMO.

    BOK owns the decisions, TMO is there for advice. Yes, the TMO put him wrong after he asked but he also was aware that the player went off for a HIA so should have double checked IMO.

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    @nzzp said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    @Crucial said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    Hodge may yet get a post game card.

    He bloody should based on that footage.

    Four games in, and three have had refereeing whistle swallowing. I'm going to post on teh Arg thread soon, but by god the ref had an effect on the winner of that game. Very frustrating.

    I usually like Gardner but Argentina were robbed. Picamoles was clearly offside at least twice in kickable positions towards the end.

    I have no idea how the SA winger didn’t get a YC. High tackle plus prevents quick ball with NZ almost certain to score. We benefitted from a couple of lucky calls too.

    I was happy with our discipline yesterday. The easiest way to avoid the TMO lottery is no high tackles in the first place.

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    I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded. He clearly tries to wrap left arm and he didn’t deliberately lead with shoulder. Just bad luck. And those whining...would you be happy to lose an AB for that?

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded.

    The issue is the bloody (apparnetly) inflexible rulings that have been trumpetted all over the place. I wasn't sure that ScoBar should have copped a card in a perfect world - given where the contact was - and I'm not sure what the difference is any more. That irish lock did exactly what ScoBar did - not even a penalty. Hodge inadvertanetly hits someone in the head with a shoulder adn they're off for an HIA -- nothing. SBW rolls into a second man in situation and cops a red.

    It's the consistency. What is a red - does it need maliciousness? The current protocols are very clear, and I think if an AB did it and copped a red, I'd be frustrated , but understand the rules.

    I am now in full grumpy old man mode, but the refereeing consistency (not just quality) is my big bugbear. Bah, bloody humbug.

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    @nzzp said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded.

    from the Grauniad:
    World Rugby’s tackle directives could not be any clearer about a collision like this. Hodge did not use his arms, his shoulder collided with Yato’s head, and, since they had both been standing up, there were no mitigating circumstances.

    Sep 21, 2019  /  Sport

    Where does Reece Hodge’s escape leave crackdown on high tackles? | Andy Bull

    Where does Reece Hodge’s escape leave crackdown on high tackles? | Andy Bull

    Australia’s Reece Hodge caught Fiji’s Peceli Yato in the head with a shoulder and didn’t use his arms, World Rugby’s tackle directives could not be clearer – yet no action was taken

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    Fiji have officially complained directly to the citing officer.
    Trouble is that I think he can only cite for a RC and they will wriggle out of that somehow. In the past there have been 'off field YCs' haven't there?

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded. He clearly tries to wrap left arm and he didn’t deliberately lead with shoulder. Just bad luck. And those whining...would you be happy to lose an AB for that?

    If there is any whining it is about the so called clear directives that are getting applied haphazardly.

    My complaint is that we lose a player for a mistimed challenge yet in other games it is “OK”.

    WR even made videos to explain their (IMO) quite hard ruling directive yet their employees seemingly didn’t watch them.

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    Hodge cited. He’s gone I’d say for at least the pool games.

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    Disciplinary update: Reece Hodge (Australia)

    Australia winger Reece Hodge has been cited by John Montgomery (Scotland) for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.13 (dangerous tackle) in the 25th minute of Australia’s Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool D match against Fiji on 21 September.
    
    Hodge will attend a hearing before an independent judicial committee chaired by Nigel Hampton, QC (New Zealand), former international coach Frank Hadden (Scotland) and former referee José Luis Rolandi (Argentina).
    
    The hearing will take place in Tokyo with the date and time to be confirmed shortly.
    
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    Nail him up Nige

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    @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I think hodge is fine. Would not like to see that red carded. He clearly tries to wrap left arm and he didn’t deliberately lead with shoulder. Just bad luck. And those whining...would you be happy to lose an AB for that?

    Happy? No
    Understanding? Accepting? Yes

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.

    Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies

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    @mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.

    Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies

    Wake up and smell the 21st century FFS - you can carry on with that shit if you want rugby to get sued to oblivion in a few years

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    @Machpants said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    @mariner4life said in RWC: Fiji v Australia (Pool D):

    I've just seen that Hodge incident. That's bullshit. In real speed that's absolutely nothing.

    Rugby is fucked. Grow a pair you fairies

    Wake up and smell the 21st century FFS - you can carry on with that shit if you want rugby to get sued to oblivion in a few years

    You can grow a set too

    Play rugby, get hit in the head. What constitutes foul play has been lost in a desperate attempt to stave off the lawyers.

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    @mariner4life you've obviously taken a few

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    So you really think that was foul play and worth a couple of weeks?

    Really?

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    It wasn't a bad tackle outcome that forced the Fijian from the field, it was an act of foul play.

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