RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
That's because Faf likes to stand in our backline when we have the ball
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Tim said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Thought Faf de Klerk had a bit of shocker, put his team under pressure many times. Good work to shut him down.
He seems to rattle Smith though eh.
When Faf plays we seem to have issues at scrum time protecting Smith at the base.
That's because Faf likes to stand in our backline when we have the ball
He’s rarely penalised for it so must be doing something right. Other than that blatant one when it was still under Read’s feet. But he’s very effective at it. He might just have one of those cloaks...
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@pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
Technically speaking your shoulders should be no lower than your hips, and all binds should be as long as possible to keep arms straight.
In practice? Whatever you can get away with. Moody trends to bind short, so because the THP binds on the outside, his elbow is more likely to point down.
There was really only one scrum decision I felt was rough on the boks, and it was actually Nepo being flat on his face, overextended, which was called a reset.
Bok scrum much better with Snyman on.
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@Damo said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Damo same principle - and if memory serves, no more rucks were formed in a way that puts steph du toit offside.
I think there was a ruck formed prior to the pass which was intercepted.
I am agnostic as to whether it was offside or not. I reckon an AB may have ran 5m with the ball and/or we had reached the advantage line prior to the intercept. SDT was retreating. It looked really bad, but ref might have been right to let it go.
UK feed didn't allow any persepective on where PSDT was in retreat. Cut straight to close up of ruck. Coverage overall pretty average.
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@Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@sparky
Top rated comment on that highlight claims Reece's pass to Smith was forward. Dummies don't even know backward from the hand = not forward.Not a clear cut position. Just how things tend to be reffed nowadays. Once upon a time backwards WAS backwards..
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@NTA said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Can't say I agree. Felt the Boks were on top in most scrums and Moody was fairly lucky not to get penalised in the first two scrums.
I was surprised when Moody wasn't penalised there as he clearly had his hand on the ground.
The biggest challenge for the scrum will be against NH opposition as they aren't as familiar and the technique can be different.
Bok TH was pushing slighly downwards and dropping bind to pull down on Moody's arm. THs have been doing so forever but @NTA can confirm if latter no longer legal.
Technically speaking your shoulders should be no lower than your hips, and all binds should be as long as possible to keep arms straight.
In practice? Whatever you can get away with. Moody trends to bind short, so because the THP binds on the outside, his elbow is more likely to point down.
There was really only one scrum decision I felt was rough on the boks, and it was actually Nepo being flat on his face, overextended, which was called a reset.
Bok scrum much better with Snyman on.
Didn't notice Nepo, but agree regarding rest. Moody's elbow went down two or more times. Boks were trying to point this out to ref. At least one of those Malherbe pulled Moody's arm down. And when Garcies went and stood on that side he penalised them.
Replacement props looked OK/good until Malherbe came back and Snyman on. Problems after that.
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I get the sense that many here are wishing for Bridge and Reece to have shockers so they can say “I told you so!”. Feel much better having Bridge under high ball than Rieko. That said how good was Kolbe? So great to see little outside backs can still thrive in test rugby. Has to be form winger in the world. Unbelievable under high ball, great defense and electrifying speed and footwork.
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@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
I totally agree. Rieko is not yet a "Rieko who ?".
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For George Bridge's try, before BB received te pass, Bridge had his arm straight out indicating BB to take the gap. Great play.
The second try was caused by ALB spotting that Marx had drifted too far over to him on the right, leaving a spot behind him-and he was too bulky to change course.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Thought Bridge had a pretty ordinary game eh. A couple of nice touches but more ugly moments, including one where he seemed to almost be avoiding attempting to catch a kick. He really shouldn't be being beaten by a midget in the air.
Yeah, we did miss an in form Rieko on the left, he offers a lot more on attack and is as good defensively. Hope they try and play him into some form in the next 3 games.
I think they will have given him the challenge in pool play to regain his attacking form
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@DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:I get the sense that many here are wishing for Bridge and Reece to have shockers so they can say “I told you so!”. Feel much better having Bridge under high ball than Rieko. That said how good was Kolbe? So great to see little outside backs can still thrive in test rugby. Has to be form winger in the world. Unbelievable under high ball, great defense and electrifying speed and footwork.
Are they? Maybe there is the odd person with provincial blinkers but I think most would agree Reece and Bridge are the in form wings. Wing seems to be a position where form trumps experience more than any other. That said, I'm sure Rieko will find form and at his peak is arguably better than the others.
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Maybe a little harsh, but plenty would have had Rieko and Bender chosen that’s a fact. I would understand Bender still being a chance if we were to face Ireland in terrible conditions but bar injury will be tough to drop incumbents. Not sure that a low confidence out of form Rieko can even eclipse Jordie at the moment. My opinion is he should have stayed home for the other Iaone.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:@bayimports welcome back. Does the timing of your return have anything to do with a certain 20+ win against the Taniwha today 😀
Lol not quite, but any win against the Taniwha is great. RWC certainly main focus, but happy nonetheless that BoP are playing well
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@DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool
:Maybe a little harsh, but plenty would have had Rieko and Bender chosen that’s a fact. I would understand Bender still being a chance if we were to face Ireland in terrible conditions but bar injury will be tough to drop incumbents. Not sure that a low confidence out of form Rieko can even eclipse Jordie at the moment. My opinion is he should have stayed home for the other Iaone.
Nothing Bridge or Reece have done in the last couple of games has convinced me that they are the clear best wing combo. They have had good moments but they are just the minimum standard we expect from our wingers.
The way we dealt with the high ball in this game, which wasn’t great, reeces defensive positioning and a couple of silly offloads to no one are still concerning.This “low confidence, out of form” Ioane thing is a myth. If we are judging everyone on those games he played for the ABs this year then most of them should have been dropped.
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I remember for the last 2 northern tours when we were endlessly chip kicking, Reiko was seemingly our only attacking threat with ball in hand.
Back peddling, no forwards, give the ball to Reiko and hope he makes a half break or at least some go forward. A job the youngest all black performed admirably.
Hope he has a blinder next game. He's done more in black than the other 2, but overall it's not a bad problem to have I guess
