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Popped up on my Google news feed thing that Georgia had overtaken Italy.
With all the talk about expanding the 6N thought it may be worth a mention that the 6th Nation is now ranked 13th, and frankly doesn't offer much in terms of interest, excitement, crowds, expansion potential or money.
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Not having much luck c&p-ing on my phone but rankings are here:
https://www.world.rugby/rankings/mru?lang=en
A couple of matters arising:
- France may consider themselves hat a little low.
- Looks like they update daily now instead of weekly
So the task for Fozzie is to remain unbeaten until the clash away against SA then beat them. Simple. Correct placing then established.
If we lose the correct placing is confirmed, we're not as good as SA!
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@Machpants how many times did SA beat us last year?
As @Smuts says, if FA between the top teams, can often come down to an injury, a 50 50 ref call, a player error...
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@Machpants said in Rankings:
No my point is if we don't beat the Boks this year, and they have a fuck ton more players in Europe that won't be picked (not just BBBR) but were allowed for the RWC, then we aren't as good!
Yep. We are the chasers now, we have to earn it back. Can’t rely on keeping the spot after a loss because we have a buffer
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@Machpants said in Rankings:
No my point is if we don't beat the Boks this year, and they have a fuck ton more players in Europe that won't be picked (not just BBBR) but were allowed for the RWC, then we aren't as good!
Yep. We are the chasers now, we have to earn it back. Can’t rely on keeping the spot after a loss because we have a buffer
Are we expecting big things this year? Huge holes in pack. Question marks in the backs. New coaches (ish). Hardly the foundations of greatness
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@mariner4life said in Rankings:
Are we expecting big things this year? Huge holes in pack. Question marks in the backs. New coaches (ish). Hardly the foundations of greatness
I expect big things every year (both for ABs and Northland...)
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@taniwharugby said in Rankings:
@mariner4life said in Rankings:
Are we expecting big things this year? Huge holes in pack. Question marks in the backs. New coaches (ish). Hardly the foundations of greatness
I expect big things every year (both for ABs and Northland...)
I think that of the ABs, not always of the Magpies e.g. throughout the reign of Philpott.
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@mariner4life said in Rankings:
@Machpants said in Rankings:
No my point is if we don't beat the Boks this year, and they have a fuck ton more players in Europe that won't be picked (not just BBBR) but were allowed for the RWC, then we aren't as good!
Yep. We are the chasers now, we have to earn it back. Can’t rely on keeping the spot after a loss because we have a buffer
Are we expecting big things this year? Huge holes in pack. Question marks in the backs. New coaches (ish). Hardly the foundations of greatness
Yep, but a clean slate and who knows what Super throws up.
Luke Jacobsen looks a talent. Some of the tighties can stand up - Pat T, Ofa, with Codie, Joe Moody, Sam W (back I beleive)?
Throw in a loose forward trio of Savea, Cane, Jacobsen (with others coming thruogh - Dalton, Hoskins), and then a decent backline with a fit DMac and we're all good.
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France overtake All Blacks on World Rugby rankings following Six Nations triumph
France have leapfrogged the All Blacks into second place on the World Rugby rankings following their Six Nations Grand Slam success.
- South Africa (N/C) – 90.61
- France (+1) – 88.88
- New Zealand (-1) – 88.75
- Ireland (N/C) – 88.22
- England (N/C) – 84.50
- Australia (N/C) – 83.92
- Scotland (N/C) – 81.80
- Argentina (+1) – 80.58
- Wales (-1) – 79.28
- Japan (N/C) – 78.26
- Fiji (N/C) – 76.62
- Georgia (+1) – 73.78
- Samoa (-1) – 73.59
- Italy (N/C) – 72.33
- Spain (N/C) – 68.26
- Tonga (N/C) – 67.72
- Romania (+1) – 66.95
- USA (-1) – 66.54
- Uruguay (N/C) – 66.40
- Portugal (N/C) – 65.72
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So what would it take for Ireland to pass NZ in July?
I assume two test wins would do it? Would one win be enough given the games are played in NZ?
It looks ... complex. But 2 wins definitely, I suspect, and 1 probably (assuming tight wins)
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So what would it take for Ireland to pass NZ in July?
I assume two test wins would do it? Would one win be enough given the games are played in NZ?
It looks ... complex. But 2 wins definitely, I suspect, and 1 probably (assuming tight wins)
It seems that a lot depends on the order of wins.
If close wins go NZ/IRE/NZ then NZ remains just above in 3rd
If the order is IRE/NZ/NZ then NZ jumps up to second with IRE 4th
NZ/NZ/IRE would see IRE jump up to 3rd and we drop
Any two win combo to IRE jumps them upand the margins are so tight that we could win 2/1 but if the loss is large IRE would leapfrog us
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@majorrage said in Rankings:
If only Hansen had won the 2019 RWC. Then you could lose all these tests and still retain your no.1 ranking.
I do agree with that though. Like heavyweight boxing, you've pretty much so go to knock out the champ to claim the crown.
Didn't Aust do that twice, NZ once and England once?
The problem is awarding double points at the RWC. If you win the tournament your rankings will improve without having to inflate the rankings points awarded.
