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  • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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    The Pacific Legends have unveiled a squad stacked with fire-power and big names from the recent past for their clash against the New Zealand Barbarians in Hamilton on Saturday 7 September.
    Coached by Tana Umaga, the Pacific Legends squad features former internationals from Samoa, Tonga, Fiji, New Zealand and Australia, recently retired sevens stars, and even a former rugby league star in the form of Lesley ‘The Volcano’ Vainikolo.

    Pacific Legends Squad:
    Inoke Afeaki, Tomasi Cama, Graham Dewes, DJ Forbes, Eliota Fuimaono-Sapolu, Frank Halai, Jeff Ierome, Roy Kinikinilau, Nili Latu, Filipo Levi, Lua Lokotui, Laisa Maasi, Deacon Manu, Seilala Mapusua, Onehunga Mata’uiau, Luke Mealamu, Mikaele Pesamino, Junior Poluleuigaga, John Senio, Semo Sititi, Hale T Pole, Justin Va’a, To’o Vaega, Samiu Vahafolau, Lesley Vainikolo, Silao Vaisola-Sefo, Tanner Vili, Gavin Williams, Radike Samo
    Coach: Tana Umaga
    The all-star clash will kick off at 12.10pm at FMG Stadium Waikato prior to the All Blacks vs Tonga match at 2.35pm. Get your TICKETS HERE.

    The driving force behind the curtain raiser is the MaiBody, MaiFuture health project launched by the Pacific Rugby Players (PRP) last year that sees high profile rugby players role modelling healthier lifestyles to fight obesity and diabetes.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    "We won't risk anyone who's 50-50, or even 80-20," Hansen told a press conference in Hamilton.

    "If we could play all 31 members in the weekend, that's what we'd do. But we're only allowed to play 23. So we're going to have to make some hard decisions, because not all of them can play."

    More great insight coming from Steve...

    I don’t think Whitelock will start or perhaps even play.

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  • mofitzy_M Offline
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    #107

    It's a gamble playing any player that is a starter v SA IMO. Honestly throwing J Barrett in at 10 might not be the worst idea if there is any possibility of him playing there during the RWC (not an endorsement of him playing there just being pragmatic).

    With respect to Tonga I doubt we will gain much from playing our top team unless we are injury free and can comfortably sub key players early.

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    #108

    Anyone know which players have the most minutes on the field so far this year?

    We want to avoid a player being knackered in a World Cup knockout game simply because they've played too much already.

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    #109

    Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

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    @JC said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    Reading through the thread, does anyone actually think this test is a good idea? It seems like a good way of turning the 100% fit players into 50:50s if you ask me. And I’m not sure a test vs Tonga in The Tron will prepare any undercooked players for a World Cup test vs the Springboks in Tokyo. No offence to Tonga.

    It's a survival exercise

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    @JC I do, but a fair bit of what could be gained is lost if Mounga can't play. That system still needs practice. Likewise midfield combos, and 9/10, and lifting with nepo etc. Lots of stuff that needs to bed in.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Tonga:

    @JC I do, but a fair bit of what could be gained is lost if Mounga can't play. That system still needs practice. Likewise midfield combos, and 9/10, and lifting with nepo etc. Lots of stuff that needs to bed in.

    Agree. Calculated risk to bed in some of the training field work. Can't go into the SA game wondering if the work you are doing will pay off.
    It may risk some players' bodies but will benefit their minds.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    As Hansen has said, some players need to play as the gap between Bled II and the SA game is too long. There is a risk of injury in any game or training.

    I'd rather be playing Tonga than be Wales and Ireland playing each other again this weekend.

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  • DrivingMaulD Offline
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    #114

    @Bovidae Sorry I don't. I get media access for Mitre 10 Cup but not Super Rugby or All Blacks

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Yeah - the Bled test was 17 August - the SA pool game is 21 September.

    Can't go into that game having not played for a month.

    I think we will see something close to the top team - minus injuries (Mo'unga, Goodhue and Retallick).

    Moody, Coles, Laulala
    Whitelock, Barrett
    Savea, Cane, Read
    Smith, Barrett
    SBW, Crotty
    Bridge, R. Ioane, Smith

    Tuúngafasi, Taylor, Taávao, Tuipolotu, Todd, Perenara, Josh Ioane, Lienert-Brown

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    New Zealand Barbarian Legends team in alphabetical order: *

    Mana Ashford
    Monty Betham
    Jason Chandler
    Loki Crichton
    Dave Dillon
    Rhys Duggan
    Ross Filipo
    Troy Flavell
    Corey Flynn
    Rico Gear
    Craig Glendinning
    Jarod Hoeata
    Tony Koonwaiyou
    Tone Kopelani
    Wairangi Koopu
    Johnny Leo'o
    Slade McFarlane
    Cameron McIntyre
    Matt Mustchin
    Sonny Parker
    Matua Parkinson
    Kevin Senio
    Chris Smylie
    Carlos Spencer
    Sherwin Stowers
    Rua Tipoki
    Ofisa Tonu’u
    Tane Tu’ipolotu
    Scott Waldrom
    Ruben Wiki

    *Teams not limited to this list

    Coach: Sir Michael Jones
    Team Support: Mils Muliaina
    Team Support: Eroni Clarke
    Team Doctor: Jeremy Stanley

    A star-studded line-up of mates will join forces on the field and reconnect off it in a bid to raise awareness of diabetes and obesity in Maori and Pacific Islanders when the NZ Barbarian Legends take on the Pacific Legends in Hamilton on Saturday 7 September.
    
    The highly anticipated spectacle will see 11 former All Blacks and multiple past New Zealand internationals take the field against an outstanding team of ex-Pacific internationals in the curtain raiser to the All Blacks v Tonga match at 12.10pm at FMG Waikato Stadium.
    
    League legends Monty Betham, Ruben Wiki and Wairangi Koopu will turn their hands to rugby in what is expected to be a highly physical encounter.
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/34658/eleven-former-all-blacks-lace-up-for-nz-barbarian-legends

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    looking at the team lists, i am honestly more interested in watching the curtain raiser then the "test"

    This is a tune up game. The top 23 have to play as much as possible. But then we have to hope no one gets hurt. Everything to lose, fuck all to gain. A necessary evil.

    That horrible mix of going through the motions without revealing anything, but not going soft enough that you get hurt (or lit the fuck up by a fired up Tongan).

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    #118

    The NZ Barbarian legends have 4 halfbacks in their squad. 20 mins each I suppose as Tonu'u hasn't gotten any smaller in retirement. 😉

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    #119

    Damn I would be super keen to watch the curtain raiser, any word of it being televised?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Rembrandt Live on SS1 before the AB test.

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    It's going to rain all week this week with rain on Saturday.

    AB's are going to have a nice pitch to play on after that curtain raiser...

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  • YeetyaahY Offline
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    @Hooroo Welcome to Hamilton

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @Bovidae maybe he is propping?

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    #124

    For Ferners living in Australia:

    The curtainraiser between the NZ Barbarians Legends and Pacific Legends, as well as the All Blacks v Tonga test, will be live on Fox Sports 503.

    https://www.foxtel.com.au/tv-guide/Live-Pacific-Island-v-NZ-Barbarians/106106601
    https://www.foxtel.com.au/tv-guide/Live-Rugby-Test-Match/106106602

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