Bledisloe #1
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:
@Siam said in Bledisloe #1:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.
Point of order here young man. If you're not outraged by those fluffybunnies putting 40 plus on us, then you're no use at all to the rank and file of the diehard All Black fan.
It's one thing for an All Black to not score tries.
It's another thing for an All Black to not fucken tackle!
Take your soy and jog on!
This is an humiliating loss.
Don't worry, I'm upset by the loss, esp because it's against the Aussie. But the outrage and esp the blame game is excessive.
And how about the shit play since last Rugby Championship?
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@Steven-Harris My contention is that Hansen has handled him wrong, as Graham Henry pointed out. The same way Hansen f*cked up with Steven Luatua - a better player than any of the bums available now.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:
@Kirwan Ah, you think I'm talking about you again.
You don’t move good tacklers from their position to hide them.
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Forget the performance for a minute
ABs have gotten away with playing poorly for last 2 years and have won
The simple fact All Blacks conceded FOURTY SEVEN points is enough to stage an intervention
NZ have been by far the best side in World Rugby this decade
To then concede 47 points is shocking and utterly disgraceful
Guys are likely to get dropped as a result
Say Scott Barrett gets a 6 game ban, he only gets onto the plane to Japan because of Brodie Retalicks shoulder injury
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@Jaguares4real said in Bledisloe #1:
Forget the performance for a minute
ABs have gotten away with playing poorly for last 2 years and have won
The simple fact All Blacks conceded FOURTY SEVEN points is enough to stage an intervention
NZ have been by far the best side in World Rugby this decade
To then concede 47 points is shocking and utterly disgraceful
Guys are likely to get dropped as a result
Say Scott Barrett gets a 6 game ban, he only gets onto the plane to Japan because of Brodie Retalicks shoulder injury
I doubt they’ll change a thing. The coaches are pretty arrogant.
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@Tim said in Bledisloe #1:
@Steven-Harris My contention is that Hansen has handled him wrong, as Graham Henry pointed out. The same way Hansen f*cked up with Steven Luatua - a better player than any of the bums available now.
Yep, Luatua, vs Fifita who openly didn’t want to do the hard yards FFS....
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I was a fan of the twin playmakers until tonight. We need more creativity and direction at 10 and 12 in big tests. Mo'unga and Laumape defended well, but do not seem to create well in tighter spaces, and our defensive patterns seem shakier. Barrett still creates plenty and ALB creates gaps with footwork and offloads. Get Beauden back to 10 please.
Why do seem to lose our attacking confidence whenever Retallick is missing?
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@ARHS said in Bledisloe #1:
Barrett still creates plenty and ALB creates gaps with footwork and offloads. Get Beauden back to 10 please.
I still find it amazing that, a few games out from RWC2019, we are still unsure of our best team and combination.
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@Tim said in Bledisloe #1:
@Steven-Harris My contention is that Hansen has handled him wrong, as Graham Henry pointed out. The same way Hansen f*cked up with Steven Luatua - a better player than any of the bums available now.
After the way he played against the Lions I really thought the AB coaches would be all over him, moulding him into a Kaino-style 6. I mean the AB coaches are meant to be the best around, surely we could expect them to make the most of the talent we have available? Add that to the fact they’ve persevered with people like Fifita and it doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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A few things stood out for me even accounting for the Red Card
No apparent game plan
Stupid chip kicks
A desire to go wide too early instead of doing the Hard yards up front.
Savea and Cane does not work we need a power forward at 6
Put Barrett back to First Five Ritchie back to the bench
we need RM and Ardies impact from the bench against tiring defences
Sorry I love Bender but he's too slow for wing
Finisher on the other wing maybe Reece need some X factor
And I hate to admit it but maybe SBW back as a point of difference.
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@No-Quarter said in Bledisloe #1:
After the way he played against the Lions I really thought the AB coaches would be all over him, moulding him into a Kaino-style 6. I mean the AB coaches are meant to be the best around, surely we could expect them to make the most of the talent we have available? Add that to the fact they’ve preserved with people like Fifita and it doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Yep, the idea that Fifita has a better workrate or fitness than Ioane is insane.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe #1:
Ah, another TSF meltdown. Everyone completely overreacting as usual.
A 20 point hiding added to the 2 previous shit performances.... I don’t think anyone is over reacting.
I haven’t seen anything positive enough in these last three games to fill me with any sort of confidence.
Forgive me if I’m not singing from the rooftops.
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Very keen to hear the press conferences on this one. Hansen has been saying that the Bledisloe and RWC prep are the only two goals this domestic season. Just like he said the Irish fixture would decide the world number one team once and for all and how the Lions series was the pinnacle of International Rugby.
Hansen keeps setting these goals yet failing at the hurdle and then trotting out the "It's just rugby, the sun will rise tomorrow, they were the better team etc etc"
I genuinely believe we have the cattle to retain the Bledisloe and win the RWC and the tactial and selection issues can be resolved fairly quickly on the back of a napkin having a couple of beers with Wayne Smith - it looks ugly but it's not catastrophic. The psychological issues in the team I'm not so sure, there are two groups that seem to be contributing to the malaise at the moment...
The Tew/Hansen/Read types who have cemented their legacy and will be nowhere to be found when it comes time to mopping up an RWC exit. Hasnen also better have a good look at Titch - one minute you are the very definition of a world class coach, the next minute you are so far off the pace Japan are touching you up.
The Barrett/Smith/Smith/SBW types who won a RWC on the backs of the old guard but seemingly feel like they played a bigger role than they did. They are now the old guard and are providing none of the leadership and stability which is needed.
