Bledisloe #1
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisoe #1:
@Siam said in Bledisoe #1:
@Crucial I guess all of us remember where we were for that game. The emotional rollercoaster was immense.
In the cold light of day though, jeez our defence to let them back in was a black mark.
But, a win's a win
I was pissed off we let them back in that easily , I didnt enjoy that game the way most did for that reason..... but Im probably a grumpy bastard .
Yeah but it’s games like these that provide the reasons we watch sports. The unpredictable nature and up and down emotional ride....
The big guy gets remembered for that last minute try but the pass to him has to be the best thing Taine Randell ever did in black (he had a pretty good game IIRC). That pass was quite amazing. -
Taine Randall gets way more shit as a player than he deserves
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@Jaguares4real said in Bledisoe #1:
Few fans give a fuck who won a game on EOYT or Summer tour in 2016-17 if you deliver the goods come RWC time
That would be why we took not winning the last Lions tour with such grace and calm then!
And why we weren't remotely upset about losing to Ireland. Either time.
And why when we finally lose the Bledisloe that everyone will be cool with it.
You do talk some shit.
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Another case of wilfully ignoring my last comment(s) FFS
I sense a pattern emerging.......
"With the exception of Boks ABs & England who're under immense pressure to win very game"
Can we shown a bit of imagination & not see everything through a ABs Point of View?
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@Jaguares4real said in Bledisoe #1:
For Attention Of @Snowy
My statement above does not apply to AB, England & Boks fans as I outlined above
You demean yourself by omitting the word after "provoke" in a poor attempt to change the meaning of my point
Add "debate" if you want, it doesn't change the intent or meaning. It is provocation - troll.
You do demean all other rugby fans with your comment that only "AB, England & Boks" are under immense pressure to win every game. Ever been to Wales? Australia? Met the rugby fans?
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This smells like loser talk
Where's Dennis Connor ro express my feelings succinctly?
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@Jaguares4real Due to the ABs dominance over the last few years you'd struggle to find a kiwi who'd ever not take a loss to heart. Boks and England have had some awful losing streaks so they have had to adjust to that reality, for the most part we haven't. It is ridiculously high standards for sure, calling a game a 'friendly' undermines how seriously we take each match even if other teams don't see it that way. That unfriendly ethos could very well be a driver of our success where other teams seem happy for the odd win, a draw, a moral victory or maybe just winning a half.
We're not going to drop that standard and it's just too bad for the opposition if they priouette into a game against us with a loser attitude.
Strike first, strike hard, no mercy!
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@mariner4life said in Bledisoe #1:
This smells like loser talk
Sorry, but what does?
Like the Connor reference but @Jaguares4real has been banned at least twice but still doesn't walk out of a fight. Small kudos for that.
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@Jaguares4real said in Bledisoe #1:
Neither, in that case, has England
Or Argentina
Or, in fact, the 120 odd other nations who are eligible
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Looking forward to this game tonight ,
I really want this side to go well, because I think the selections are on the right track. Particularly the backline
Fingers crossed
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The 3 7s in the 23 is interesting, not sure how much we read into it and possible tactics in the WC .
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@mariner4life said in Bledisoe #1:
Writing off losses without a thought
Actually a winning philosophy apparently. Flushing the dunny, call it what you will.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisoe #1:
@Siam said in Bledisoe #1:
@Crucial I guess all of us remember where we were for that game. The emotional rollercoaster was immense.
In the cold light of day though, jeez our defence to let them back in was a black mark.
But, a win's a win
I was pissed off we let them back in that easily , I didnt enjoy that game the way most did for that reason..... but Im probably a grumpy bastard .
If we are being honest with ourselves, the Aussies had a better side than ours and I know even when we were up that OZ would make some sort of run.
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@shark said in Bledisoe #1:
I'm pleased with the backline. I think it's our strongest combination, sans SBW or Crotty off the bench for Laumape. Does anyone else feel like Goodhue has played at least another season longer than he actually has? Seems like he should have 20 odd caps rather than just 8!
In the forwards I'm worried about a couple of things. Potential lack of height in general, mainly thanks to the inclusion of Savea, Cane and Todd in the same group of loose forwards, plus the combination of Read/Cane/Savea and how they'll gel. It would be really interesting to see what they did if we lost a loosie - any loosie - to injury. Does Todd come on, or does Pat T come on and Barrett goes to 6? I guess the scenario at the time will dictate this. I do find it odd though that they have a third openside flaker on the bench. Does this mean they're hell-bent on playing two opensiders at any given time?
Yeah - I like the backs and am keen to see the Mo'unga/Barrett combo work. If it fires it could be the lethal edge we need.
Not surprisingly, I'm less keen on the forward pack than most. Sub in Taylor for Coles and Todd for Cane and it's got a real Crusaders look to it - with Ardie playing the Taufua small six role and Scott Barrett as a pretty small test match lock.
Looks to me that they're hell-bent on playing at speed - there's no really big munter in the midfield either - so Todd will presumably come on in the last quarter as fresh and fast legs, unless we're getting out-muscled and need more power, in which case maybe Barrett shifts to six.
At the start of RWC, speed and mobility could be a master-stroke against South Africa in the pool matches - recalling how the Sunwolves beat the Blues in the heat a couple of years ago and the Chiefs beat the Crusaders in Suva - but, by the business end of the tournament, heat shouldn't be a factor.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisoe #1:
@kiwiinmelb said in Bledisoe #1:
@Siam said in Bledisoe #1:
@Crucial I guess all of us remember where we were for that game. The emotional rollercoaster was immense.
In the cold light of day though, jeez our defence to let them back in was a black mark.
But, a win's a win
I was pissed off we let them back in that easily , I didnt enjoy that game the way most did for that reason..... but Im probably a grumpy bastard .
If we are being honest with ourselves, the Aussies had a better side than ours and I know even when we were up that OZ would make some sort of run.
Yep 100 %, and it used to piss me off
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@Chris-B said in Bledisoe #1:
Looks to me that they're hell-bent on playing at speed
Which is not the way Tests against Lions, SA, Eng, Ire etc have gone in the last couple of seasons.
Are they predicting rugby suddenly becomes more like the first half of 2003? Maybe it works against the Aussies but does that mean it works against the other RWC threats?
What is the weather like in Japan in late October? Perhaps it's related to that?
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@Duluth Might be pretty hot at the start of RWC, but by end of October it shouldn't be.
Yeah - we might find out if it's not going to work tonight, but we won't find out if it really will work against the very best teams until October. Pretty much the opposite strategy to Eddie's use of two blindsides (if he's still doing that).
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Whatever happens tonight we are lucky enough to be around during such a time of sweet sweet domination
Pain by numbers: just how dominant have the All Blacks been?
It's been almost a decade and a half since the Wallabies last hoisted the Bledisloe Cup in victory. It's no surprise, then, that most positive records in Bledisloe encounters fall the way of the All Blacks.
