TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)
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@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Bones said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Geez I'm with @Stargazer people really do underestimate Todd. He's a quality performer.
Yes he is, but he doesn't dominate in the way Cane and Ardie do.
Todd is a much better player over the ball than Cane
Cane is a jack of all trades and alot more robust physically
To give a Wallabies example:
Todd is Pocock - Good tackler who is great over the ball Average in attack
Cane is like Hooper - Not as good over the ball but is versatile to his team
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@No-Quarter said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Tim said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
At least Aaron Smith isn't starting. Absolute dogshit against SA last year.
Smith hasn't been terrible this year but TJP has taken his game to another level, he's the superior player now IMO.
TJP less likely to be thrown off game by Bok phsicality.
Would be chance to trial TJP/RM combo.
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@Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Big Karl and Big Patty T. look like significant losers with this selection.
Ofa and Angus as the bench props would be concerning for both Karl and Nepo Laulala, since it points a bit to one of those two missing the RWC cut - and since Karl hasn't been given a run, maybe it's him in the gun.
Not picking a specialist lock on the bench and instead two two loosies would be pretty concerning for Tuipolotou, who's definitely 4th lock at best once Barrett is fit. I'm pretty surprised that they didn't choose Hemopo instead of Fifita, but this might be a pointer towards the pecking order in that regard as well. I think the AB selectors have mainly picked Fifita ahead of Hemopo?
I can also be colored pretty surprised that Todd is starting and neither Cane nor Ardie is in the 23.
Richie at 10, Beaudy at 15 is a very big call - it's exciting - but, hope neither of them gets injured! Not sure what the "significant" injury rate is for the starting XV in test rugby, but it must be more than one player per game.
Big game for SBW I think - needs to show he's worth persisting with.
Karl T is very clearly no. 2 LH at scrum time, so it's one of him/Moli. Ofa seems to have shown he can cover both sides, so think the real call is Laulala/Ta'Avao.
My take is that if Franks is fully fit them Angus has good shot as more mobile option/impact selection. Any doubt about Franks and Nepo a lock for scrummaging.
With Barrett (S) a fully fledged locking option, I think question is the role TWM are looking for. Fully blown power lock role suits Patty T, but if looking for 5 1/2 AND starter in gimme games he's going to struggle.
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@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Bones said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Geez I'm with @Stargazer people really do underestimate Todd. He's a quality performer.
Yes he is, but he doesn't dominate in the way Cane and Ardie do.
Todd is a much better player over the ball than Cane
Cane is a jack of all trades and alot more robust physically
To give a Wallabies example:
Todd is Pocock - Good tackler who is great over the ball Average in attack
Cane is like Hooper - Not as good over the ball but is versatile to his team
Pocock is McCaw like in being more than just a 7, great at being in right place at right time, even if not for strictly 7 'duties'. Hooper excellent 7, but not as many 'involvements' per game.
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@pakman said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Jaguares4real said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@antipodean said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
@Bones said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
Geez I'm with @Stargazer people really do underestimate Todd. He's a quality performer.
Yes he is, but he doesn't dominate in the way Cane and Ardie do.
Todd is a much better player over the ball than Cane
Cane is a jack of all trades and alot more robust physically
To give a Wallabies example:
Todd is Pocock - Good tackler who is great over the ball Average in attack
Cane is like Hooper - Not as good over the ball but is versatile to his team
Pocock is McCaw like in being more than just a 7, great at being in right place at right time, even if not for strictly 7 'duties'. Hooper excellent 7, but not as many 'involvements' per game.
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@Jaguares4real Good God please never mention Hooper and Cane in the same sentence ever again.
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@Bones yep, Pocock is a one trick pony, granted exceptional at his one trick, while McCaw had all the strings to his bow.
You only need look at how much more balanced back rows function without Pocock in them to see he doesn't do enough of the other work.
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@taniwharugby balanced they may be, but are they more woke?
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@Hooroo said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):
So what are we calling this team? B-, B or B+?
Proof that SBW is Hansen's love-child?
