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    @Rancid-Schnitzel not to mention if you want to punish yourself, go back and watch that game, we were not playing our usual patterns (granted Ireland were a huge factor in that) maybe it was the seeds to the plan they are aiming towards now?

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    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Rancid-Schnitzel not to mention if you want to punish yourself, go back and watch that game, we were not playing our usual patterns (granted Ireland were a huge factor in that) maybe it was the seeds to the plan they are aiming towards now?

    No thanks. One time was enough!

    Brodie was also terrible in that game. Dropped a heap of pill. Iirc Read was also very ordinary.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Rancid-Schnitzel not to mention if you want to punish yourself, go back and watch that game, we were not playing our usual patterns (granted Ireland were a huge factor in that) maybe it was the seeds to the plan they are aiming towards now?

    No thanks. One time was enough!

    Brodie was also terrible in that game. Dropped a heap of pill. Iirc Read was also very ordinary.

    I remember Read dropping an easy one after a charge down with the try line open, would have been a critical blow if he’d held on to it.

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    @Bones Yeah he's a unit. Bumped into him at a Chiefs game in the crowd and had a yarn. Nice dude. Massive unit with a big ass noggin.

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    To add to the much ado about nothing file...this popped up on social media...under Eddie England steal approx 5.55677% more metres than anyone else.

    486710965965a6f47e839199258947d8.jpg

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    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    To add to the much ado about nothing file...this popped up on social media...under Eddie England steal approx 5.55677% more metres than anyone else.

    486710965965a6f47e839199258947d8.jpg

    The outrage over this has been absolutely ridiculous. I reckon if you trawl through most games you'll find examples of this. Those screaming the loudest might want to tone it down before they look like even bigger idiots.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel agreed
    Can't wait till a last minute match winning try from a lineout happens and it's revealed the hooker had his toes on the line while throwing in. We must be due for that tempest soon

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    @Siam they havent cared about that since, well, since Foxy...

    MOst hookers have thier feet a good inch or 2 over the line now.

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    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Siam they havent cared about that since, well, since Foxy...

    MOst hookers have thier feet a good inch or 2 over the line now.

    look at where a hotly contested 2-ball is caught in a lineout. It's certainly not 5m from the touch line

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    @mariner4life I was trying to point that out to a ref a couple of weeks back as the opposition were jumping in front of our ball and stopping the ball going 5m....

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    I thought the passing stats were interesting, at the least

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/114643062/all-blacks-passing-stats-reveal-how-aaron-smith-changed-moungabarrett-plan

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    @Siam said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Rancid-Schnitzel agreed
    Can't wait till a last minute match winning try from a lineout happens and it's revealed the hooker had his toes on the line while throwing in. We must be due for that tempest soon

    @mariner4life said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    look at where a hotly contested 2-ball is caught in a lineout. It's certainly not 5m from the touch line

    What irks me is that the above 2 examples are laws of the game.
    But somehow, they have become to be considered unimportant. Like feeding a scrum straight.

    One could argue - not really a biggie - let the game flow and who cares about the small technicalities.

    But sure as nuts, Siam's prediction will come true. Maybe even in the RWC.
    Teams will transgress these rules all match long, but at some point a TMO is going to review a try and say "oh, err hang on. The guy throwing in the ball wasn't behind the line" And he will be completely justified, and obligated in making that call. If he doesn't, he is equally going to be pilloried.

    You just have to hope that call doesn't go against your team I guess. But it will come.

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    @Billy-Webb Totally agree with this. If they don't want to police it, then relax the laws of the game. But leaving this half-in half-out status quo is the recipe for disaster in a tight game.

    Like an overthrows boundary where it comes off the batsman's bat...

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    @TeWaio said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Billy-Webb Totally agree with this. If they don't want to police it, then relax the laws of the game. But leaving this half-in half-out status quo is the recipe for disaster in a tight game.

    Like an overthrows boundary where it comes off the batsman's bat...

    Too soon

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    @canefan said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @TeWaio said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @Billy-Webb Totally agree with this. If they don't want to police it, then relax the laws of the game. But leaving this half-in half-out status quo is the recipe for disaster in a tight game.

    Like an overthrows boundary where it comes off the batsman's bat...

    Too soon

    I still wake up at 4am, bathed in sweat, screaming "STOKES DIDN'T EVEN WANT THE FOUR RUNS"

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    @TeWaio 100% What I don't get is that feeding the scrum straight and ensuring the ball travels 5 meters in the lineout are simple to police AND vital in ensuring a fair contest for possession (which is what I want in every facet of the game.)

    Forget letting the game flow. Ensure a fair contest for possession. Its good for purists and casuals. It gives you highlights like Harrison stealing the vital throw in to end that Lions contest.

    Or rather, policing the laws results in the game flowing better.

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    @Machpants said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    I thought the passing stats were interesting, at the least

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/114643062/all-blacks-passing-stats-reveal-how-aaron-smith-changed-moungabarrett-plan

    As I already noted, RM looked very good once Nugget arrived.

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    @Smuts said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @TeWaio 100% What I don't get is that feeding the scrum straight and ensuring the ball travels 5 meters in the lineout are simple to police AND vital in ensuring a fair contest for possession (which is what I want in every facet of the game.)

    Forget letting the game flow. Ensure a fair contest for possession. Its good for purists and casuals. It gives you highlights like Harrison stealing the vital throw in to end that Lions contest.

    Or rather, policing the laws results in the game flowing better.

    Is straight now defined as NOT straight into second row???☹

    What REALLY, REALLY rats me off is the following:

    "Hands off [Maro], ruck formed.

    Me, sir?

    Yes.

    OK.

    Thank you."

    By which time (1 - 2 seconds) defence has realigned.

    Please, PLEASE, just, "Penalty, hands in ruck".

    For the grace of God.

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    @Smuts said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @TeWaio 100% What I don't get is that feeding the scrum straight and ensuring the ball travels 5 meters in the lineout are simple to police AND vital in ensuring a fair contest for possession (which is what I want in every facet of the game.)

    Just using one example, there was a throw from SA to the front (to Etzebeth I think) where the ball was lucky to go 3 m as he landed closer to the touchline than the 5 m line. Surely it's not hard for the AR to see this as they are standing only a few metres away?

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    @pakman what frustrates me is when you hear hands of white, hands off white...3 seconds later white turn ball over and are on attack

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