Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes
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So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
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@SammyC said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
What an emotional roller coaster at the ground, didn’t really enjoy the game that much and thought the canes would pinch it at the end.
for some reason in that second half we hung off Beauden and Coles and let them run at us.Crotty departure coincided with that?
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@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel yes from the left hand side
For a right foot kicker it is a lot easier
Moungas where harder I kicked many so I know it’s harder through experience it’s easier in the wind as well to fade from the left side than the rightIf you look at stats for conversions the percentage successful is a lot lower for kicks taken within five metres of right touchline than it is for those taken with five metres of left.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel yes from the left hand side
For a right foot kicker it is a lot easier
Moungas where harder I kicked many so I know it’s harder through experience it’s easier in the wind as well to fade from the left side than the rightIf you look at stats for conversions the percentage successful is a lot lower for kicks taken within five metres of right touchline than it is for those taken with five metres of left.
Wow, do people who aren't professional Rugby coaches actually do this ?
What amazing time management skills.
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
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@MN5 said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Rancid-Schnitzel yes from the left hand side
For a right foot kicker it is a lot easier
Moungas where harder I kicked many so I know it’s harder through experience it’s easier in the wind as well to fade from the left side than the rightIf you look at stats for conversions the percentage successful is a lot lower for kicks taken within five metres of right touchline than it is for those taken with five metres of left.
Wow, do people who aren't professional Rugby coaches actually do this ?
What amazing time management skills.
I'm just another one-eyed Fern hack, so don't stare at ME with your eye!
It seems there have been here 100 posts which boil down to easy vs. easier???!!!
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@canefan yeah I should have explained it abit better slip of the finger the 2 kicks I admitted that
But my point being BB kick was easier from the left side than RM’s 2 from the right but some people couldn’t get their head around it or just don’t understand goal kicking -
@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman yep it’s a much harder kick the angle the fade is a lot harder as the natural run into the ball makes it harder to line up your left shoulder to your target zone for all Right foot kickers kicking from the right hand touchline
I can't find the clip of Mexted, commentating on a test, I think in Wellington, when Merts had a conversion from the right hand touch in a gale: 'He's a magician if he kicks this one'. [Ball curls out to ten metres in front of posts, stops, caught by a gust and goes over] He IS a magician!'.
This will have to suffice:
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@taniwharugby said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
BB/SBW/JG
and yet, I reckon this is what the selectors have been working towards, or at least wanting to run out, but aint gonna happen until round 2 of TRC if it does.
ALB/JG is the mid-field most have been keen on seeing, I reckon
To start I like RM/SBW/JG (or ALB) OR BB/RC/JG. But also very relaxed with 10/ALB/JG.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@Chris said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman yep it’s a much harder kick the angle the fade is a lot harder as the natural run into the ball makes it harder to line up your left shoulder to your target zone for all Right foot kickers kicking from the right hand touchline
I can't find the clip of Mexted, commentating on a test, I think in Wellington, when Merts had a conversion from the right hand touch in a gale: 'He's a magician if he kicks this one'. [Ball curls out to ten metres in front of posts, stops, caught by a gust and goes over] He IS a magician!'.
This will have to suffice:
Best commentator ever along with Bill Mclaren
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Last post for now. I think ROG has really improved Mo'unga's tactical awareness. Couple of instances I can easily recall yesterday were breakout from 22, and little chip over top in own half with back up leading to try.
We have two excellent first fives to take to RWC. Great options for starting/bench.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
Fuck SBW and Laumape, ABW is the best 12 in NZ
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One more.
Interested in views, but when Read chose to take the 3 with 10 to go, I thought it could well bite them in the bum and nearly did. I'd have kicked to corner and given Caders maul a rumble. Even if no try territorially good and burning up three or four minutes.
Coach I was with yesterday disagreed and pointed out that with RM it was almost guarnteed 3, and plenty of time to go.
In the books now.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
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@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
In the first half. AM could have been on bench.
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
And that's wrong about Mauger too when you look at how Luke played
In the first half. AM could have been on bench.
Two 12s in the 23? Thank fuck you're not a selector
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
Last post for now. I think ROG has really improved Mo'unga's tactical awareness. Couple of instances I can easily recall yesterday were breakout from 22, and little chip over top in own half with back up leading to try.
We have two excellent first fives to take to RWC. Great options for starting/bench.
O'Gara has definitely improved the Crusaders and Mo'unga especially
Watched an interview with him & Razor on 1014 and alot was made of ROG Int'l experience over 120 caps for Ireland
ALOT of Intellectual Property acquired in his playing career as well as time spent coaching in coach and with Dan Carter at Racing
ROG will be missed when leaves Backline has been a smoothly run machine Lots of players have come and played well off the bat
Mataele Reece Ennor Jordan Bridge Hall etc -
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
@mariner4life said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
So we down grade our 12 because none of our 10s can run the game?
I have every sympathy with the vibe, but assuming we take four midfielders, I personally will feel a lot better if we take RC as our 'thinking' second five. We all know he doesn't have the physical attributes of an SBW or a Laumape, but there's room for one of them, so we have different clubs in the bag.
But then I still believe we blew it in Cardiff by not having Mauger in the 23!!!
Fuck SBW and Laumape, ABW is the best 12 in NZ
He's a lock for RWC, and, yes, probably best all round 12. That said, Hags crunched him effectively. Not bad at 13 either!
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@pakman said in Semi Final 1: Crusaders vs Hurricanes:
One more.
Interested in views, but when Read chose to take the 3 with 10 to go, I thought it could well bite them in the bum and nearly did. I'd have kicked to corner and given Caders maul a rumble. Even if no try territorially good and burning up three or four minutes.
Coach I was with yesterday disagreed and pointed out that with RM it was almost guarnteed 3, and plenty of time to go.
In the books now.
The canes forwards were on top and had consistently been effective defending in the red zone. All the crusaders tries came from long range, generally because of canes errors. If the canes defence hadn't been so effective (for example if the crusaders had had three red zone attacks for three tries) then I could understand going to the corner (which had happened earlier in the game) but at that point taking the points was the right call.
