2019 Cricket ODI WC
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@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Great tournament though - it just rolls on, and damn near every game means somethign
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Agree 100%.
Weirdly the Bangles still have an outside chance of making the semis. Very unlikely but with the vagaries of sport they could still upset Pakistan and the result on Wednesday won't matter.
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Net Run Rate - basically it's our average RPO rate batting, minus the average RPO against us. I think that means that changing it at th eback end of the tournament is damn hard -- so we should be OK given we've played 7 games so far. Would need a hell of a loss.
“A team’s net run rate is calculated by deducting from the average runs per over scored by that team throughout the competition, the average runs per over scored against that team throughout the competition.
“In the event of a team being all out in less than its full quota of overs, the calculation of its net run rate shall be based on the full quota of overs to which it would have been entitled and not on the number of overs in which the team was dismissed.
“Only those matches where results are achieved will count for the purpose of net run rate calculations. Where a match is abandoned, but a result is achieved under Duckworth/Lewis/Stern, for net run rate purposes Team 1 will be credited with Team 2’s Par Score on abandonment off the same number of overs faced by Team 2. Where a match is concluded with Duckworth/Lewis/Stern having been applied at an earlier point in the match, Team 1 will be credited with 1 run less than the final Target Score for Team 2 off the total number of overs allocated to Team 2 to reach the target.”
source:
https://inews.co.uk/sport/cricket/net-run-rate-how-calculated-cricket-world-cup-2019-semi-finals-tiebreak-explained/ -
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Agree 100%.
Weirdly the Bangles still have an outside chance of making the semis. Very unlikely but with the vagaries of sport they could still upset Pakistan and the result on Wednesday won't matter.
Wouldn't they have to get past BOTH India AND Pakistan?
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@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
India 306 total. They started slow but the batting in the last 10 overs was ridiculously safe considering they had a chaseable target and wickets in hand.
Massive game on Wednesday - England needs to win as Pakistan will almost certainly roll the Bangles on Friday. Luckily for us the Pakistan RR is much worse than ours but we still need a tight game at the very least and ideally a win.
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Love me a good conspiracy theory
I believe it. Not saying India threw the game but India threw the game.
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Great tournament though - it just rolls on, and damn near every game means somethign
Pakistan finally coming to life has made this format work. At the halfway point it was looking like one or two more games would settle the semi finalists and the rest of the games would be fairly meaningless.
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@booboo if we don't make it I don't think we can argue that it wasn't undeserved. We got a free point against India, dodged a bullet against SA and WI, and our batting crumbled against Aussie. And our opening pair probably average in single figures for the whole tournament
I'm going back to my stance that making the Semis is a win for us- we've performed as expected. The Media really wound up on us as we beat lower ranked sides, but we struggle to consistently win against classy opposition. Fourth in the world is a good result for us - and realistically, we're touch and go with Pakistan.
bullshit!!! you keep saying it but that doesn't make it true. We have played shit and should deservedly miss out. And i call that a failure.
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@mariner4life anything but coming home with the trophy is a fail!!!
oh, this is a cricket thread, Gp Black Caps, we won a couple havent we? Woohoo!
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@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
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@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
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@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
NRR will probably be our saviour but losing 3 straight games before a SF wouldn't inspire any confidence.
We could do a France....
