2019 Cricket ODI WC
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Love me a good conspiracy theory
I believe it. Not saying India threw the game but India threw the game.
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Great tournament though - it just rolls on, and damn near every game means somethign
Pakistan finally coming to life has made this format work. At the halfway point it was looking like one or two more games would settle the semi finalists and the rest of the games would be fairly meaningless.
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@booboo if we don't make it I don't think we can argue that it wasn't undeserved. We got a free point against India, dodged a bullet against SA and WI, and our batting crumbled against Aussie. And our opening pair probably average in single figures for the whole tournament
I'm going back to my stance that making the Semis is a win for us- we've performed as expected. The Media really wound up on us as we beat lower ranked sides, but we struggle to consistently win against classy opposition. Fourth in the world is a good result for us - and realistically, we're touch and go with Pakistan.
bullshit!!! you keep saying it but that doesn't make it true. We have played shit and should deservedly miss out. And i call that a failure.
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@mariner4life anything but coming home with the trophy is a fail!!!
oh, this is a cricket thread, Gp Black Caps, we won a couple havent we? Woohoo!
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@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
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@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
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@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
NRR will probably be our saviour but losing 3 straight games before a SF wouldn't inspire any confidence.
We could do a France....
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@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
Helmets and boxes to dissuade French from giving cricket a crack!
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@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
Helmets and boxes to dissuade French from giving cricket a crack!
Classic French players would smoke Gauloise while batting.
And fielding.
And probably bowling
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
Helmets and boxes to dissuade French from giving cricket a crack!
Classic French players would smoke Gauloise while batting.
And fielding.
And probably bowling
Whilst wearing berets!
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@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
Helmets and boxes to dissuade French from giving cricket a crack!
Classic French players would smoke Gauloise while batting.
And fielding.
And probably bowling
Whilst wearing berets!
fark it, now I want France to play cricket. Wine at the lunch interval too ...
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@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@Bovidae said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
My mate is convinced India didn't go flat out in order to make it hard for Pakistan to qualify.
Yep, Pakistan needed India to win more than we did.
As others have said, if NZ can't beat England we don't deserve to be in the SFs.
but if we lose we can still sneak in theoretically ?
not just theoretically - our NRR is better than both Pakistan and the Bangles. So yeah - unless we get smoked, adn one of them collapses (in a totally legitimate way) we should still sneak through.
Hey - once we're in teh knockout, we could go full England 2007, or France 2011 and make a run
My memory might be getting hazy now I'm in my 40's but I didn't even know France played cricket. How bout that.
Eye gouging, testicle grabbing gallic flair would go down a treat in Test Cricket I'm sure
Helmets and boxes to dissuade French from giving cricket a crack!
Classic French players would smoke Gauloise while batting.
And fielding.
And probably bowling
Whilst wearing berets!
fark it, now I want France to play cricket. Wine at the lunch interval too ...
Would have to be on clear understanding that there was no underarm bouling!
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@pakman said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@nzzp said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
@mofitzy_ said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:
England were poor v SL and Aus then looked like world beaters v India. Here's hoping we can have a similar turnaround.
Pakistan RR= -0.792
NZ RR = +0.572If it comes down to RR it will probably be tight.
Yep - that heavy loss was as bad as it gets. If we get pumped again, and the Bangles get smashed, that could be us done.
That said, if we lose heavily to Aus and England, and don't play India, and lose to Pakistan we don't deserve to make the semis.
Agree 100%.
Weirdly the Bangles still have an outside chance of making the semis. Very unlikely but with the vagaries of sport they could still upset Pakistan and the result on Wednesday won't matter.
Wouldn't they have to get past BOTH India AND Pakistan?
Yep. A very outside chance in other words.
Chances of them just upsetting Pakistan are a bit more likely. In which case Pakistan will only have themselves to blame.
