2020 All Blacks Squad
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
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@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Thanks Gazer.
Flanders was one that had previously occurred to me but forgot.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
Yes, he debuted for them last year (IIRC Flanders hasn't yet).
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@booboo Have you forgotten R Ioane among the midfielders, or was that intentional?
Forgot, but really not one of my preferred options. But will add.
If you list McKenzie among the 10s and 15s, you should do the same with B Barrett IMO.
True.
Pedant alert: initials help if there are multiple players with the same last name.
Fair enough.
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@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Chris-B should have had Havili given he's been there previously.
I also agree with @Crazy-Horse about Douglas. Am a fan, but think good Super player may be his ceiling.
Yeah, people forget that no team wanted him for Super rugby and he made the Crusaders initially due to injury. He also had a time share role with Taufua so it will be interesting to see how he goes for longer than 50-60 minutes regularly.
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@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@booboo Another one: Tyrel Lomax.
Good point. Missed him ...
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Update again
Moody, Moli*, Ta'avao*, Tu'inukuafe, Lidenmuth?,
Alaalatoa?,Coles, Taylor, Coltman, Harris, A Aumua, Taukei'aho?, Riccitelli?, Makalio?,
Laulala, Tu'ungafasi, Ta'avao*, Moli*, Lomax, Fidow?,
S Barrett, Tuipolotu, Parkinson, Walker-Leaware?, McWhannel?,
Romano?, Strange?Cane, A Savea, Jacobsen, Frizell, A Ioane, Papalii, Evans, Fifita, Robinson?, Flanders?, Kirifi?, Douglas?,
A Smith, Perenara, Weber, TT Tahuriorangi, Drummond, Enari?, Hall?, Fakatava?,
B Barrett*, Mo'unga, J Ioane, D McKenzie*, Cruden?, Perofeta?, Falcon?, Plummer?, Cameron?,
A Lienert-Brown, Goodhue, Laumape, Ennor, Tupaea?, Aso?, Proctor?, Nankiville?, R Ioane, Toala?,
Bridge, Reece, R Ioane, Jordan*, Alaimalo?, Clarke?, Nareki?, Mataele?, Faingaanuku?
B Smith, J Barrett, B Barrett*, Mckenzie*, Jordan*, Havili
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@Snowy I'm surprised to see his name there, too. I think his ABs days are up, regardless. Time for the next generation. Plenty of good wings/fullbacks.
I also don't think Cruden - although eligible - will play for the ABs again, unless both BB and RM are injured.
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@booboo said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
@Stargazer said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
The big unknowns at SR level, at the moment, are Flanders (6/8) and Toala (12/15), but they're certainly players to look out for.
Know nothing about Toala. He in the Canes?
Sky Sport is reading the Fern. They just posted this:
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@cgrant Whether he was the best no. 8 in M10 Cup is debatable, and Mikaele-Tu'u looked better in the preseason games. TBN frequently looked indecisive and made a couple of costly mistakes (one resulting in a Crusaders try). IMO it's way too soon to think of him in terms of ABs, but it will definitely be interesting to see how he'll go at SR level.
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Cullen Grace my bolter for end of year tour
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My bolter for end of year tour is Isaia Walker-Leawere.
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@Canes4life said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
My bolter for end of year tour is Isaia Walker-Leawere.
igf i remember my Foster's Chiefs days correctly, expect to see a heap of undeserving Waikato players
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not sure Tom Robinson he would be a bolter this year, as he was apparently very much on the radar last year, although guess it depends if they were looking at him as a lock/6 or 6/lock and how/where the Blues play him or if he suffers 2nd season syndrome that many others get afflicted by.
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@chchfanatic as a lock or loose forward?
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@taniwharugby said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:
not sure Tom Robinson he would be a bolter this year, as he was apparently very much on the radar last year, although guess it depends if they were looking at him as a lock/6 or 6/lock and how/where the Blues play him or if he suffers 2nd season syndrome that many others get afflicted by.
His workrate was singled out as a key point of attraction. Test rugby demands that kind of dedication and workrate.
The term 'bolter' is misleading anyway. To me it is the selection that we don't even see coming but the selectors see a skillset that they want.
Robinson is certainly a possibility for a rookie position on the EOYT.
