Boxing Thread
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
@african-monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb I wouldn't get too carried away haha. Let's not forget he got knocked down twice is his last fight against 3-17 Waikato Falefihi where he got a gift. Huni and Fa (who i don't rate that highly) would still wipe the floor with SBW or any league player.
No reason why the Gallen fight can't take place though.
not saying he would win , but they are realistic type options that would create interest in their countries if he went on to beat gallen ( emphasis on the if ) where the sbw name creates interest , and this is almost always about money anyway .
if he does beat gallen , he has run out of ex footballers and they say he wants to fight for 2 years , what options are there ?
Actual boxers?
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I don't get why people are so negative. I'd say that most boxers starting out would love to have money fights as they learn rather than sacrificing years scrambling for low paying fights to climb the ladder.
If he is serious about doing more than exhibition fights then at least he has been able to get some decent training and payment along the 'apprenticeship'
He generates interest that's for sure. Two stories about this fight were in the top 10 clicks on Stuff this morning.
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@kiwiinmelb Yeah, see your point. Would be surprised if he and gallen carried on in the sport though if/when they fight.
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@kiwimurph said in Boxing Thread:
Was interesting to hear Hall say SBW hits harder than Gallen.
That’s the one thing I noticed. His power punches looked to have much more sting in them than when he was knocking tomato cans over a few years back.
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@kiwimurph I think that was a weakness of sonny's for a very athletic man. Looks to have sorted it. He used to look too timid like he wasn't all in on the punch. Really was hunting that cross with intent.
Gallon is a pressure fighter so he doesn't need to hit as hard. He's nowhere near the size of sbw so it's pretty obvious.
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@muddyriver said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwimurph I think that was a weakness of sonny's for a very athletic man. Looks to have sorted it. He used to look too timid like he wasn't all in on the punch. Really was hunting that cross with intent.
Gallon is a pressure fighter so he doesn't need to hit as hard. He's nowhere near the size of sbw so it's pretty obvious.
Quite a bit shorter but they’d be a similar weight. Definitely more Joe Frazier than George Foreman though.
Agree though, SBW looked considerably meaner than in the past. . It’s also worth mentioning that just cos a guy has big muscles doesn’t automatically mean he’s gonna hit hard. Some guys just have much more of a natural aptitude for it.
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I've seen some people saying sbw barely touched him. But that's not true at all. That one that initially knocked hall down looked like not much but it hit his jaw and neck. All that weight behind it would have fucked up most people. Hall was defo dazed. The last punch was a glancing blow but it connected. I've seen the super slomo and you can see the force in Halls outer cheek, the other side of his face. He got clocked.
SBW is still off balance and doesn't know how to throw from inside. If you watch it back he initially hit hall with what was supposed to be a big wind up punch but was too close in. Still got the job done. Well done to him.
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Dean Lonegan not on the SBW bandwagon by the sounds of things.
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@mn5 I think she probably did impress in the UK in Fury's camp. In sparring under less pressured situations I reckon, given his background for training the house down and working on the nuances of whatever sport he's playing this week, that he was probably more technical. Looked a million bucks.
Last night though he looked sloppy and over excited. Just needs to calm the fuck down and let his reach and athleticism do the rest. I mean fucking look at him. He's always been a specimen. He looks like a boxer. Just needs to sit back a bit. The close exchanges he missed so many punches and one of the "shots" he gave Hall was a forearm to the side of the head.
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There are levels and this retired footballer turned boxer level that exists down under , I think SBW may turn out to be the king of that level . I think with his athletic traits and the good training he has access to now will see him beat Gallen .
But in rugby terms it’s like comparing local club footballers to international. And I don’t think Andy Lee was saying he would win a world title, just talking up his athletic talent and how it’s comparable to the top dogs .
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@raznomore said in Boxing Thread:
@mn5 I think she probably did impress in the UK in Fury's camp. In sparring under less pressured situations I reckon, given his background for training the house down and working on the nuances of whatever sport he's playing this week, that he was probably more technical. Looked a million bucks.
Last night though he looked sloppy and over excited. Just needs to calm the fuck down and let his reach and athleticism do the rest. I mean fucking look at him. He's always been a specimen. He looks like a boxer. Just needs to sit back a bit. The close exchanges he missed so many punches and one of the "shots" he gave Hall was a forearm to the side of the head.
Is SBW transitioning as well ? The world really has gone mad
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@mn5 said in Boxing Thread:
@muddyriver said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwimurph I think that was a weakness of sonny's for a very athletic man. Looks to have sorted it. He used to look too timid like he wasn't all in on the punch. Really was hunting that cross with intent.
Gallon is a pressure fighter so he doesn't need to hit as hard. He's nowhere near the size of sbw so it's pretty obvious.
Quite a bit shorter but they’d be a similar weight. Definitely more Joe Frazier than George Foreman though.
Agree though, SBW looked considerably meaner than in the past. . It’s also worth mentioning that just cos a guy has big muscles doesn’t automatically mean he’s gonna hit hard. Some guys just have much more of a natural aptitude for it.
I did notice his technique is much better than it used to be. SBW used to be very lazy on his feet in the ring which lead to poor punching technique. It looked like he was just throwing his arms.
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Anyone excited about the real boxing this weekend ?
What a fluffybunny of a time for NZ folk though……especially those of us who have a 40th the night before.
@raznomore as the only one on here who really knows what he’s talking about hows it gonna go ? I’m hearing all sorts of stuff about Fury being underweight and not up for it ?
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Fury wins in whatever fashion he wants. Whyte has no chin, clumsy footwork, a left hook that is over rated by many and not enough of an inside game to trouble Fury. He's basically a glorified British/Euro level fighter, similar to Dereck Chisora.
Current Fury under Sugar Hill will most likely stand and trade in the pocket and look for an early KO. His size will also give Whyte fits.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
Fury wins in whatever fashion he wants. Whyte has no chin, clumsy footwork, a left hook that is over rated by many and not enough of an inside game to trouble Fury. He's basically a glorified British/Euro level fighter, similar to Dereck Chisora.
Current Fury under Sugar Hill will most likely stand and trade in the pocket and look for an early KO. His size will also give Whyte fits.
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@MiketheSnow the end of the press conference was brilliant. Serious face off then Fury starts tickling White like a child.
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Hmmmmm, I’ve gotta be honest. Tyson would be extremely high on the list of people I’d try not to piss off.
Also who can blame him, this guys face is amazingly punchable
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i watched the longer version of that this morning
this guy got EXACTLY what he deserved. He was pissed, carried on like a fuckhead, was leaning over the top of Tyson carrying on over and over. Fucked around. Found out.
If there is a top 5 list of people i don't want to antagonise in to punching me in the head, Mike Tyson is like 3 of those guys
Mike Tyson repeatedly punches airplane passenger in crazy video
