Boxing Thread
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@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
Mike was/is a seriously ill man
I think he seems to be in a pretty good space now ( relatively speaking )
His legacy is debatable but he’s without a doubt the most compelling and fascinating sportsman I can think of.
I did a double take when I read "sportsman." Technically I guess he was but I never thought of sport when I watched him box, it was so savagely primordial.
Yeah but my word he got people watching didn’t he ?
But as others have said once the fear factor wasn’t there and his opponents had more reach/skill/heart he was definitely beatable.
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@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
Mike was/is a seriously ill man
I think he seems to be in a pretty good space now ( relatively speaking )
His legacy is debatable but he’s without a doubt the most compelling and fascinating sportsman I can think of.
I did a double take when I read "sportsman." Technically I guess he was but I never thought of sport when I watched him box, it was so savagely primordial.
Yeah but my word he got people watching didn’t he ?
But as others have said once the fear factor wasn’t there and his opponents had more reach/skill/heart he was definitely beatable.
Oh yeah I agree with all of the above. If you watch him against Lennox there is a moment you can see he knows he aint' going to win it and he just waits for the inevitable.
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@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@nostrildamus said in Boxing Thread:
@MN5 said in Boxing Thread:
@mariner4life said in Boxing Thread:
Mike was/is a seriously ill man
I think he seems to be in a pretty good space now ( relatively speaking )
His legacy is debatable but he’s without a doubt the most compelling and fascinating sportsman I can think of.
I did a double take when I read "sportsman." Technically I guess he was but I never thought of sport when I watched him box, it was so savagely primordial.
Yeah but my word he got people watching didn’t he ?
But as others have said once the fear factor wasn’t there and his opponents had more reach/skill/heart he was definitely beatable.
Oh yeah I agree with all of the above. If you watch him against Lennox there is a moment you can see he knows he aint' going to win it and he just waits for the inevitable.
….and most boxing experts will tell you even at his ( Tysons ) best he would not have been able to beat Lewis. Like Holyfield ( who also beat him ) Lewis never came close to getting the attention that Tyson at his peak got though. Probably a bit “boring” in comparison.
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David benevidoz v Andrade tomorrow, might be an interesting fight .We know about benevidoz power but Andrade has an awkward style
Also not too bad a card with jermall charlo v Jose benevidoz also fighting
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@kiwiinmelb Benavidez batters Andrade. Way too big for him. Andrade will make things tricky early on fighting southpaw, but once Benavidez sorts out the range, he'll take over mid rounds and stop him around the 9th I feel.
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@kidcalder Cameron to do her again I feel. Taylor's had a great career, but is in decline and going up a weight class seemed a step too far the last time they fought.
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@kidcalder Well what do I know haha. Missed the fight but sounds like it was awesome.
Wouldn't surprise me if there was a 3rd fight between them.
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Great fight and yes a third sounds like it will happen at Croke Park possibly 80-90,000 capacity
Cameron maybe panicked after her head got cut clash of heads early- very deep cut.
Katie fast combos Cameron def bigger puncher 3rd fight will be 50/50 as well -
@kidcalder said in Boxing Thread:
Great fight and yes a third sounds like it will happen at Croke Park possibly 80-90,000 capacity
Cameron maybe panicked after her head got cut clash of heads early- very deep cut.
Katie fast combos Cameron def bigger puncher 3rd fight will be 50/50 as wellYeah good fight ,Cameron had the heavier punches but Katie’s sheer will got her home , she just doesn’t quit .
Good card on now with the benevidoz v Andrade fight
On free to air in aus for those interested, Foxtel/kayo
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Benavidez batters Andrade. Way too big for him. Andrade will make things tricky early on fighting southpaw, but once Benavidez sorts out the range, he'll take over mid rounds and stop him around the 9th I feel.
Was thinking about it after the fight , has there been a bigger punching fighter at 168 than Benevidoz ?
at 26 he just seems to be getting stronger
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@kiwiinmelb Don't know how he keeps making 168 tbh. He'd probably make CW comfortably.
He's a bit of a weight bully, but yeah, he sure can bang. I can see why Canelo wants no part of him.
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@African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:
@kiwiinmelb Don't know how he keeps making 168 tbh. He'd probably make CW comfortably.
He's a bit of a weight bully, but yeah, he sure can bang. I can see why Canelo wants no part of him.
Yeah he is a monster
I suspect from interviews , his goal is to win titles at 168 again , then go up ,
he has mentioned how he would like to fight Bivol and Bieterbiev , he could comfortably add more muscle to that upper frame
Yeah its a dangerous fight for Canelo , particularly that there are signs he is in decline skills wise, i dont believe he is as sharp defensively as he once was , he reguarly finishes fights looking banged up now
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Big card tomorrow, unusual to see so many big names on the same card even if there are mismatch’s ,
Probably won’t save him but Joe looks in fantastic nick (49 mins in)
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Big card tomorrow, unusual to see so many big names on the same card even if there are mismatch’s ,
Probably won’t save him but Joe looks in fantastic nick (49 mins in)
‘Small’ heavyweight Parker is outweighing Wilder by 32 lbs for this fight !
I thought they’d be much closer than that, both around the 230 lb or about 105kg mark.
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Statistically wilder is a freak of nature with the way he generates power from that slingshot action and the lean frame .
But if there is a disadvantage even though we haven’t seen it often with the calibre of fighters he has faced , those skinny legs do wobble when he is hit .
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I suspect joes team will roll the dice and be aggressive as a moving target , going 12 rounds wilth wilder without wearing a big shot is a tough ask , try to strike first may be the fight plan . At least it might be entertaining
The danger I see is him being hit as he comes forward , particularly the way he likes to do that small hop as he moves in
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@kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:
Statistically wilder is a freak of nature with the way he generates power from that slingshot action and the lean frame .
But if there is a disadvantage even though we haven’t seen it often with the calibre of fighters he has faced , those skinny legs do wobble when he is hit .
Wilder does have a good chin and heart as he showed against Fury
