Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host
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@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@MN5 said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@MiketheSnow said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
NZ v Wales quarter clashes with the ABs v Japan.
I guess that the RWC draw was done way before the ABs confirmed their game. BFs were always sceduled as host to have their quarter in that slot, at that ground wherever they finished after pools.
I think I will have to decide which one to watch live as flicking between Sky and Spark is bound to be a pain.
ABs every time
Absolutely.
Call me a chauvinist but it’s not even close.
Chauvinist
To be fair the list of things I’d rather do than watch the Black Ferns is extremely long
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@MN5 said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@MN5 said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@MiketheSnow said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@Crucial said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
NZ v Wales quarter clashes with the ABs v Japan.
I guess that the RWC draw was done way before the ABs confirmed their game. BFs were always sceduled as host to have their quarter in that slot, at that ground wherever they finished after pools.
I think I will have to decide which one to watch live as flicking between Sky and Spark is bound to be a pain.
ABs every time
Absolutely.
Call me a chauvinist but it’s not even close.
Chauvinist
To be fair the list of things I’d rather do than watch the Black Ferns is extremely long
Really? I am seriously enjoying watching this RWC. It’s like hopping into a Delorean and going back to the early days of pro rugby in the men’s game. Not as programmed and defence oriented. Lots of opportunities for skill to show out.
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@KiwiMurph said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@Davesofthunder said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
This clash does seem a needless own goal when we are hosting the RWC.
More brilliant work by Mark Robinson and his gang....
Both games will be on Stan in Aus so will fire up the laptop and tv at the same time.
Pretty fucking incompetent, they should fucking resign. Again
NZR admitted not understanding the World Cup rules. “When Japan Rugby set the kick-off time for the All Blacks Test, NZR did not take into account ... that the host nation would play in the quarter-final two timeslot,” it read.
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France with the lead v Italy as expected but they aren’t looking that good. They try to go wide but Italy catching them behind the advantage line or forcing an error every time.
I’m sure that if they just hit it up they would make easy ground but so far I am not seeing much that the BFs couldn’t handle. -
I am seriously wondering if it is a thing with the refs as a group that they are allowing players latitude to get away from the back of the ruck.
So many examples that would be pinged in the mens game that are let go. Just watch England do it 3 times in one play.
Cocksedge was going nuts at the ref yesterday about it (and the hands all over the ball). Ref just shrugs it off. Although someone may have had a word in her ear at halftime as she did tidy things up a bit second half. -
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@taniwharugby said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Crucial I do wonder if they need a size 4.5 ball for womens rugby, slightly lighter and smaller than the mens size 5, but not as small as the ones they use for some kids grades
There have been discussions about this among women's rugby experts (coaches, current and former players) - I think one or two years ago - and the main view seemed to be that they should focus on coaching and improving skills and keep playing with the size 5 ball. They considered there is still plenty of room for improvement through coaching.
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@Stargazer I reckon it's not too dissimilar to when we went away from that heavy leather adidas ball.
At least they looked at it.
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Answered this in the other thread then realized it should be here.
Ball size isn’t much of a problem. Core and arm/shoulder strength can be when combined with lower level coaches from the men’s game that set fields that way they would for men. Eg spread back lines
Just like coaching youth players, if you can get them to stand closer you get better play.
At the pro women’s level the problem reduces and most players will now go through academy programs with S&C development.
With kicking it is simply a time thing and stupidly a bit of an afterthought relying on players doing extras and putting their hands up. -
@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Another game where an Aussie cops contact to the head at a ruck.
Another yellow card given in place of a red.
Yes, we might complain overly about refs giving them opposition a leg up, but you can occasionally see what we mean.
Excuse my ignorance, I watch next to no women's rugby, but is the women's game having the same issues around head contact as the men's game? I'm not talking about people suffering brain injuries, more in relation to head contact happening multiple times a game and people being penalised seemingly based on fairly random factors such as whether or not someone gets hurt.
I ask because I'm really seeking to understand if head contact is just an unfortunate and inevitable consequence of the game per se, or simply an issue with the men's professional game.
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@junior said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
@NTA said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Another game where an Aussie cops contact to the head at a ruck.
Another yellow card given in place of a red.
Yes, we might complain overly about refs giving them opposition a leg up, but you can occasionally see what we mean.
Excuse my ignorance, I watch next to no women's rugby, but is the women's game having the same issues around head contact as the men's game? I'm not talking about people suffering brain injuries, more in relation to head contact happening multiple times a game and people being penalised seemingly based on fairly random factors such as whether or not someone gets hurt.
I ask because I'm really seeking to understand if head contact is just an unfortunate and inevitable consequence of the game per se, or simply an issue with the men's professional game.
This RWC is being very very reluctant to dish out reds.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say the refs have been told directly to avoid it but they do seem to be looking more for reasons not to.
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@junior said in Womens RWC 2021 -NZ to host:
Excuse my ignorance, I watch next to no women's rugby, but is the women's game having the same issues around head contact as the men's game?
That's the thing right? We see next to zero women's rugby so it's hard to judge.
However, as @Crucial says: the refs are tying themselves in knots to avoid it. Have seen multiple head contacts across a few games that aren't even reviewed. When they are, they seem to lean heavily toward yellow.
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Watching Canada v USA now.
Around 45:30 on the clock but nearly a minute until the TMO gets it on the radar.
Blue 12 charging into contact to tackle red 6. Head on head. Not passive. No attempt to lower height into contact. No significant drop from ball carrier.
No mitigation that I can see but ref argues there is not a high level of danger.
Yellow given. Fucking what??
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@NTA the crazy one yesterday was the tip tackle on Ruby Tui.
Was clumsy more than reckless or intentional but the ref went down the most bizarre path saying that the tackler “pulled out of it” which supposedly made things better rather than the tackler not taking responsibility to get the player safely to the ground.
Lifted over the shoulder, spun and dropped from height but somehow the tackler wasn’t really at fault?
